Covid Vaccination for Children

[chuckman]

I don't know about yellow fever but flu-related deaths among children are on par with the 300 Covid deaths you cite.

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Flu deaths in children have been nationally reportable since 2004. Since that time, flu-related deaths in children reported to CDC during regular flu seasons have ranged from 37 to 188 deaths

While any death in a child from a vaccine preventable illness is a tragedy, the number of pediatric flu deaths reported to CDC each season is likely an undercount. For example, even though the reported number of deaths during the 2017-2018 flu season was 188, CDC estimates the actual number was closer to 600. It is likely the actual number of children who died from flu during the 2019-2020 season is higher as well.

[[[ To compare to Covid, you'd probably have to double the above numbers because about half of children get a flu vaccination but no children got a Covid vaccination. Still, the numbers are not all that great on the grand scale of things ]]]


Children should be vaccinated every flu season for the best protection against flu.

More here: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/2...flu-deaths.htm


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Of course we can use the common refrain 'we don't know what we don't know' about the long term affects of Covid vaccinations, but using the criteria of pediatric illness-related death that you chose, the logic of Covid vaccinations and flu vaccinations for children are comparable in that regard. Plus, the Covid vaccine is likely to perform near 100% in preventing severe illness and death among children. Better than a flu shot.

For those interested in the topic of Covid and children the below link covers a lot of ground.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/...w-202105052448

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All that said, it should be left up to parents although not to override private school policy.

I am all for kids getting flu vax, especially young kids and kids in school (as opposed to homeschool). It's no bueno. RSV and HIB are worse; thankfully there's a vax for HIB.

Older kids and those with no comorbidities usually have a better outcome than do adults. The young ones, tho....

[sandsunsurf]

I'm good on most all of the proven immunizations...'yearly / repeated' jabs for flu / corona / covid / etc do not fall in this category. The topic was specific to the current available jabs related to covid & promoting to children who don't need it, plus it doesn't protect granny regarding the transmission.

Yes, the vaccine does reduce/stop transmission. Y’all get a little crazy picky on information sources, but science, media and gov all say it does and anecdotal evidence says it does.

Here’s from NatGeo (seemed the most likely to be reasonable here)

“Yes, vaccines block most transmission of COVID-19
The latest data show that getting a shot not only protects vaccinated individuals, it reduces the chance they can spread the virus to others.”

With that said, there’s probably no reason not to have an otherwise healthy child get vaccinated. The negative side effects are minimal and extraordinarily rare, even more rare than negative COVID outcomes in children. The bonus of reduced transmission makes it a reasonable choice for children over 10-ish (once approved for that age)

[Artos]

One of Fauci's emails stated transmission was unlikely asymptomatic & we have plenty of fully vaccinated people hospitalized...the mfg's of the jabs have said it reduces symptoms if you catch it.

So, you can possibly catch it after being vaccinated but not transmit...got it. Children do not need the jab, period.

[sandsunsurf]

One of Fauci's emails stated transmission was unlikely asymptomatic & we have plenty of fully vaccinated people hospitalized...the mfg's of the jabs have said it reduces symptoms if you catch it.

So, you can possibly catch it after being vaccinated but not transmit...got it. Children do not need the jab, period.

The numbers of people “possibly catching it after being vaccinated” are very low, and if you want to use the super-low odds argument, then there are at least an equal number of kids getting long term effects and even dying from the actual infection, so actually it is mathematically provable that it’s safer for children to get “the jab, period.”

I know I won’t change YOUR mind, but I sure hope that anybody on the fence will consider both perspectives, before taking your biased and limited information as the only answer.

[jsbhike]

Y’all get a little crazy picky on information sources, but science, media and gov all say it does and anecdotal evidence says it does.

That's the same combination(s) advocating various 2nd Amendment infringements.

[jsbhike]

the protect granny angle

is again brought to you buy:

"Common sense gun laws"

if you are getting raped just pee on yourself !

just give into crime and they won't hurt you !

no more foot chases !

ban the police (then scream for their help and blame them when you become the victim)

trump insurgents are the most dangerous element in our country !

we have made a black only safe space to promote inclusion !

Yep, I have been waiting for one to use "43 times more likely" out of habit.

[sandsunsurf]

That's the same combination(s) advocating various 2nd Amendment infringements.

I should have realized to quote Fox News so that it is believable and they (supposedly) support our 2A rights.

“Two new Israeli studies into the efficacy of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccines suggest that the vaccine greatly reduces virus transmission.”

Of course this is three months old and only one out of three currently available vaccines. But, as with nearly all other vaccines, getting the other COVID vaccines (J&J, Moderna) will also reduce transmission.

[Arik]

One of Fauci's emails stated transmission was unlikely asymptomatic & we have plenty of fully vaccinated people hospitalized...the mfg's of the jabs have said it reduces symptoms if you catch it.

So, you can possibly catch it after being vaccinated but not transmit...got it. Children do not need the jab, period.

The only article I could find was from April so this is somewhat dated but at that time....

-77 million Americans were vaccinated.

-5,800 (five thousand eight hundred) have become infected (some possibly due to catching the bug before completely vaccinated).
396 7% (seven) of those who got sick needed to be hospitalized.
-77 died

65% were female.
29% were asymptomatic


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[jsbhike]

I should have realized to quote Fox News so that it is believable and they (supposedly) support our 2A rights.

“Two new Israeli studies into the efficacy of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccines suggest that the vaccine greatly reduces virus transmission.”

Of course this is three months old and only one out of three currently available vaccines. But, as with nearly all other vaccines, getting the other COVID vaccines (J&J, Moderna) will also reduce transmission.

Seen plenty of anti 2nd Amendment crap out of FOX news. Even you used a source that hadn't done any anti 2nd shenanigans the fact remains that the individuals, groups, and basic themes inherent to the anti 2A cause are well represented in the covid news.

[WillBrink]

One of Fauci's emails stated transmission was unlikely asymptomatic

Less likely vs unlikely would be more accurate, but again, one does not know if they are asymptomatic or presymptomatic - a major source of viral spread - until it's too late.

& we have plenty of fully vaccinated people hospitalized...

Source? How are you defining "plenty" again? % those compared to those not vaccinated that were hospitalized?

the mfg's of the jabs have said it reduces symptoms if you catch it.

So, you can possibly catch it after being vaccinated but not transmit...got it. Children do not need the jab, period.

None of that follows and this thread supplies solid intel on that score worth reading, if one is interested in being informed on the topic.