Wow! This will be interesting to see how long this stays.
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BREAKING: Judge Roger Benitez Declares California’s ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban Unconstitu
Wow! This will be interesting to see how long this stays.
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/br...onstitutional/
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Should be interesting.
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This should pair well with some of the East Coast decisions in lower courts that go the other way. That’s what we need for Scotus to step in. Then what we need is a single decision like gay marriage. No screwing around with sending it to lower courts to work it out. just a mandate that the second amendment means what it says.
Colorado is about to go full stupid by letting every municipality set their own gun laws. That New York case, if it applies to concealed carry, and this case could be what we need. It would seem at this point that Colorado, Denver specifically, has worse gun laws in California.
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I'll get excited when it become the way things actual are, until then it's CA and expectations are low.
Seems to me a CA court once declared machine guns for individual use legal, but of course it changed nothing.
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As you know, Colorado is a lot like New Mexico - lots of wide open country and rural people who do what they want. You go to the San Luis Valley and Alamosa, or even in La Plata and Montezuma Counties outside of Durango and Cortez, and you will still see Trump signs on the fences. Nobody complies with anything out in rural New Mexico, and I get the feeling in rural Colorado as well.Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand
If you're ever in this part of the State on I-25 hang a left at Wagon Mound and head east on NM 120. I'm past the Canadian River a piece, then 16 miles off of pavement. Otherwise we could meet in Las Vegas, where the wife works.
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Freedom Week 2.0 activate!
If they can even find much in stock right now...
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Basic summary...
1. CA assault weapons laws were ruled to be unconstitutional.
2. A 30 day stay was issued with the ruling.
During that 30 day window, CA DOJ can appeal the ruling to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
If CA DOJ does appeal, then the stay remains in place until the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals makes a ruling, which can take 2-5 years.
If CA DOJ does not appeal, then after the 30 day stay is up, CA assault weapons laws will no longer be legal.
^This is when it will be legal to no longer abide by CA assault weapons laws.
~The 30 day window ends on July 4.
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Hats off to the FPC
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It's one of the reasons why I dropped my NRA membership and signed up with FPC instead. They're getting shit done, and they're not taking the fudd route of acting like hunting rights are their main concern.
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I just read the opinion and while it brutally puts down the Ca's ridiculous ban on common weapons, I feel that ultimately this will be nothing more than a judicial review version of a Trey Gowdy talking point. It may feel good, but we really know that that nothing is going to come out of this as we have basically the same ruling from the same judge, being sent to the 3 judge panel, to be affirmed, only to be rejected by the En Banc panel because the 2nd does not apply to individuals or something ridiculous like that because they know that the SCOTUS will mostly like punt this for that weeks trans rights case.
The points laid out by Benetez literally cant be refuted, The state states these items are super dangerous, but yet not as dangerous as fist or knives in the State.
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