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    That was a good summary, thanks for sharing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChattanoogaPhil View Post
    So I guess anyone without a computer or phone doesn't get to be heard?
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    So I guess anyone without a computer or phone doesn't get to be heard?

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    Included in post #200 is a link to ATF instructions for submitting comments. The way I read it as long as written comments are legible and at least 12-point font size (.17 inches) they should be accepted via US Mail. Computer printer, typewriter or pen in hand isn't stipulated, so I would guess the below is good to go regardless if it was computer printed or handwritten.



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    Submit a Comment on Proposed Rule 2021R-05

    ATF requests comments on the proposed rule, Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms, from all interested persons.

    ATF specifically requests comments on the feasibility of implementing the new definition of firearm “frame or receiver” in 27 CFR 478.11 and 27 CFR 479.11, and related definitions and amendments that ensure the proper marking, recordkeeping, and traceability of all firearms manufactured, imported, acquired and disposed by federal firearms licensees. ATF also requests comments on the costs or benefits of the proposed rule and on the appropriate methodology and data for calculating those costs and benefits.

    Deadline

    Written comments must be postmarked and electronic comments must be submitted on or before August 19, 2021.

    Commenters should be aware that the electronic Federal Docket Management System will not accept comments after midnight Eastern Time on the last day of the comment period.

    Requirements

    All comments must reference this document’s docket number ATF 2021R-05, be legible, and include the commenter’s complete first and last name and full mailing address. ATF may not consider, or respond to, comments that do not meet these requirements or comments containing profanity.

    ATF will retain all comments as part of this rulemakings administrative record. ATF will treat all comments as originals and will not acknowledge receipt of comments. In addition, if ATF cannot read your comment due to technical difficulties and cannot contact you for clarification, ATF may not be able to consider your comment.

    ATF will carefully consider all comments, as appropriate, received on or before the closing date, and will give comments after that date the same consideration if practical to do so, but assurance of consideration cannot be given except as to comments received on or before the closing date.

    How to Submit

    Submit comments in any of three ways (but do not submit the same comment multiple times or by more than one method). Hand-delivered comments will not be accepted.

    Federal eRulemaking Portal

    ATF recommends that you submit your comments to ATF via the Federal eRulemaking portal at www.regulations.gov and follow the instructions.

    Comments will be posted within a few days of being submitted. However, if large volumes of comments are being processed simultaneously, your comment may not be viewable for up to several weeks. Please keep the comment tracking number that is provided after you have successfully uploaded your comment.

    Submit your comment online

    The Regulations.gov comment portal is now live following the publication of the proposed rule in the Federal Register on May 21, 2021.

    Mail

    Written comments must appear in minimum 12-point font size (.17 inches), include the commenter’s first and last name and full mailing address, be signed, and may be of any length.

    Send written comments to:

    ATTN: ATF 2021R-05
    Andrew Lange, Office of Regulatory Affairs
    Enforcement Programs and Services
    Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives
    99 New York Ave. NE
    Mail Stop 6N-518
    Washington DC 20226

    Fax

    Faxed comments must:

    Be legible and appear in minimum 12 point font size (.17 inches);
    Be 8 ½” x 11” paper;
    Be signed and contain the commenter’s complete first and last name and full mailing address; and
    Be no more than five pages long.
    Submit comments by facsimile transmission to (202) 648-9741.

    Confidentiality

    ATF will make all comments meeting the requirements outlined above, whether submitted electronically or on paper, available for public viewing at ATF and on the internet through the Federal eRulemaking Portal, and subject to the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. 552).

    Commenters who do not want their name or other personal identifying information posted on the internet should submit comments by mail or facsimile, along with a separate cover sheet containing their personal identifying information. Both the cover sheet and comment must reference this docket number (2021R-05). For comments submitted by mail or facsimile, information contained on the cover sheet will not appear when posted on the internet but any personal identifying information that appears within a comment will not be redacted by ATF and it will appear on the internet.

    Proprietary or Confidential Business Information

    A commenter may submit to ATF information identified as proprietary or confidential business information. The commenter shall place any portion of a comment that is proprietary or confidential business information under law on pages separate from the balance of the comment with each page prominently marked “PROPRIETARY OR CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS INFORMATION” at the top of the page.

    ATF will not make proprietary or confidential business information submitted in compliance with these instructions available when disclosing the comments that it received, but will disclose that the commenter provided proprietary or confidential business information that ATF is holding in a separate file to which the public does not have access. If ATF receives a request to examine or copy this information, it will treat it as any other request under the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. 552). In addition, ATF will disclose such proprietary or confidential business information to the extent required by other legal process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocsteady View Post
    Only 36,714 comments so far...
    103k for the first 14 days which is about on pace with the first five days.

    According to the Congressional Research Service.... unofficial estimates suggest that there are between 10 and 40 million stabilizing braces and similar components already in civilian hands, either purchased as accessories or already attached to firearms made at home or at the factory.

    It would appear that pistol brace owners haven't been rushing to the Comment button but there's still a lot of time till September.

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    I continue to contact GOA and NRA in that regard. Just takes a second to pen a quick comment like : Please focus your energies on criminals, their behavior and the crimes they are committing and stop the constant attack on the law-abiding gun owners in this country. Nearly everything the ATF puts out in recent memory is akin to putting muzzles on people before they enter a crowded theater in the event that someone might break the law and yell "fire." And yes it just that bad. The ATF should cease allowing itself to be the militant arm of the leftists in our country and refocus on criminals and criminality instead of working so hard to create felons with ever increasing infringements on the Constitution's second amendment. Pistol braces, like so many other firearm-related items are in common use in this country by millions of law-abiding citizens so please direct your efforts at those that actually break the laws, they're called criminals, in case you've forgotten that important point.
    "Why "zombies"? Because calling it 'training to stop a rioting, starving, panicking, desperate mob after a complete governmental financial collapse apocalypse' is just too wordy." or in light of current events: "training to stop a rioting, looting, molotov cocktail throwing, skinny jeans wearing, uneducated bunch of lemmings duped by, or working directly for, a marxist organization attempting to tear down America while hiding behind a race-based name"

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    Thankfully Republicans in the Senate seem to have noticed. https://thereload.com/exclusive-repu...fect-millions/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Bell View Post
    Thankfully Republicans in the Senate seem to have noticed. https://thereload.com/exclusive-repu...fect-millions/
    Except for Collins and Pussyass Portman.... Collins, I kinda get, Maine is split right down the middle between flaming Leftists and serious gun people so she has to walk a tightrope pissing each side off just enough to not be worth replacing. Portman... well, I have family who were part of the Ohio Republican Party at its founding, and it was corrupt even in their day when they were PART of the problem. Call my personal war on RINOs an attempt to atone for the sins of my forefathers, I guess...
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    Oh, that's neat.....where were all those pieces of shiit when the election was being stolen, which is how we got to this point, right?

    Bunch of weak swamp creature fuucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViniVidivici View Post
    Oh, that's neat.....where were all those pieces of shiit when the election was being stolen, which is how we got to this point, right?

    Bunch of weak swamp creature fuucks.
    Only on tuesday but never on wednesday and sometimes on saturday but never after 4pm.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Forty-eight Republican senators signed a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland on Thursday slamming the Biden Administration’s plan to ban most pistol braces.

    Republican senators said the ATF made the devices popular by initially approving their design and then expanding their legal use in a 2017 determination. They accused the agency “suddenly chang[ing] course” on their legality after nearly a decade. They said the ATF’s turnabout was “shocking,” and accused it of trying to “yank the rug out from under” law-abiding American gun owners who have purchased upwards of 7 million of the devices.


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    Did 48 'shocked' republican Senator's sign a letter slamming the Trump admin for 'suddenly changing course on [bump stock] legality after a decade' and 'yanked the rug out from under law-abiding citizens'?

    Next I suppose the NRA will say they are shocked that additional regulations would even be considered on a device the ATF has already approved. shocking I tell ya... shocking.

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    Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions, the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law. The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations.
    Last edited by ChattanoogaPhil; 06-25-21 at 07:49.

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