Originally Posted by
turnburglar
I think you are finding an issue where there isn't one....
1" foam edge. Please show me a plate that has proven edge performance? I would like to know. MOST plates; even the good ones, struggle with edge hits. Even AR500 struggle with edge hits......
Invested much?
Yeah, plates 'struggle' with edge hits.... at least they HAVE an edge to hit, instead of however much foam before you get to the ACTUAL edge of the plate which will then 'struggle'. Ergo, the lost critical performance area on these plates is actually GREATER than simply dropping from 10x12 to 8x10, as the actual edge now starts at 8x10, and works it's way in to wherever and edge hit will cease to 'struggle' to be contained. So, I may as well just buy 8x10 plates from any other manufacturer and save some weight while I'm at it...
**Edit, apparently Aries beat me to this explanation...
Apparently M193 and M855A1 slip right through L210's. Was the speed high? Sure. But the LAPG plates you don't seem to care for, handled the threats just fine.
The L210s are also a 1/2 inch 'special threat' plate (apparently already with some known/rumored issues against certain rounds), the LAPGs are what, twice that thick? No johns it had issues with an oddball 22" barrel @45 feet...
Your comparison is invalid. By that logic, I could say that you should all buy Shotstop Poly plates as they will stop 338LM out of a 26" barrel, even though they fail the BFD standards for that round... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du27HvgtOt4)
If it was against other armor of similar weight/thickness/price and outperformed a closer match to itself, I would be inclined to give this comparison more credence, as I would bet against a more realistic competitor you'd see about equal results. In which case, the issue simply comes back to to original issues with false advertising and lack of proper coverage (which should still disqual the LAPG plate from serious use, regardless of the price OR performance).
(For the record, I am not a 'fan' of the L210s and don't own any, and if they really are having legitimate issues stopping advertised rated rounds, they need to be fixed/pulled from the market like the old 3610s. I simply think matching them with the LAPGs for a head to head comparison is BS.)
>>Edit 2 - in the video Turnburglar linked for the L210 test, at 18:23 you can see the plate material goes all the way to the stated width of plate, with Hesco's usual extremely thin foam side strips. Compare with the LAPG for a very simple pictoral explanation of what the issue is here.
Last edited by Jellybean; 06-12-21 at 13:55.
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