We keep slinging these bullets, and keep being impressed. Normally when we shoot a full bore caliber the come up from 900 yards to 1000 yards is about 1 mil. These are like 2 mils out of a 16" gas gun. So they're really starting to run out of ass. But they still get there. Pappabear was dancing around our 1300 gong with a 8 power LPVO maxed out at 25 mils, plus 2 additional hold over. WAY outside the effective range, but impressive that a $0.14 bullet could even get there.