EFFECTIVENESS OF THE INDIVIDUAL RIFLEMEN IN AN INFANTRY SQUAD

[dpast32]

And here's another, relatively interesting 'Study', from 2017.

[PDF] EFFECTIVENESS OF THE INDIVIDUAL RIFLEMEN IN AN INFANTRY SQUAD - DAIR - Acquisition Research Program - Naval Postgraduate School
dair.nps.edu › NPS-AM-18-025

LINK At:

https://www.google.com/url?q=https:/...vPALtxDnNLgSQA

[CPM]

Two officers who never spent a day in the Infantry start their report referencing World War 1, then make judgement calls about what the next infantry rifle should be. Government work at its finest.

Waiting in the optometrists office and read the whole thing. Save yourself the time and don’t. What a waste of time for something they can stick on their LinkedIn.

[ggammell]

You deliver more than UPS. Top notch.

[C-grunt]

I just saw that the "taking back the Infantry half kilometer" was in the beginning of that paper. Not sure if this is where that paper came from or this work just uses it but I have a couple issues with it.

1. The overwhelming cause of lack of lethality from rifleman at 500 meter is missing the target.

2. Unless we are going to switch to a ridiculous new battle rifle round a 500 meter hit isn't going to be a hammer unless you hit specific vital spots.

3. I worked with a guy that was a SEAL and tested the 6.8 overseas. He found it no better than 5.56 except he couldn't get easy replacement ammo from outside his supply chain. To quote him "a good hit was a good hit and a bad hot was still a bad hit"


Now to the paper as a whole and the effectiveness of a single rifleman. Well that's really going to depend on which rifleman we are talking about. There are some non shooting mother****ers in an infantry company. There are also guys who are much more likely to engage the enemy early on than others. History is ripe with stories of single Soldiers and Marines doing very heroic things and changing the flow of a battle either by themselves or through actions they took.

[lowprone]

And only hits matter , .30 calibre hit matter more !

[1168]

I just saw that the "taking back the Infantry half kilometer" was in the beginning of that paper. Not sure if this is where that paper came from or this work just uses it but I have a couple issues with it.

1. The overwhelming cause of lack of lethality from rifleman at 500 meter is missing the target.

2. Unless we are going to switch to a ridiculous new battle rifle round a 500 meter hit isn't going to be a hammer unless you hit specific vital spots.

3. I worked with a guy that was a SEAL and tested the 6.8 overseas. He found it no better than 5.56 except he couldn't get easy replacement ammo from outside his supply chain. To quote him "a good hit was a good hit and a bad hot was still a bad hit"


Now to the paper as a whole and the effectiveness of a single rifleman. Well that's really going to depend on which rifleman we are talking about. There are some non shooting mother****ers in an infantry company. There are also guys who are much more likely to engage the enemy early on than others. History is ripe with stories of single Soldiers and Marines doing very heroic things and changing the flow of a battle either by themselves or through actions they took.

Spot on, particularly about the Half Km.

[26 Inf]

Two officers who never spent a day in the Infantry start their report referencing World War 1, then make judgement calls about what the next infantry rifle should be. Government work at its finest.

Waiting in the optometrists office and read the whole thing. Save yourself the time and don’t. What a waste of time for something they can stick on their LinkedIn.

Actually, three officers, two of whom had infantry and/or mech infantry commands. One was the Assistant Product Manager (APM) for Army Handguns, Carbines, and Subcompact Rifles, including the Modular Handgun System.

I'm going to read the meat of this tomorrow, too late now.

[dpast32]

Hey Kids, I just happened across it & forwarded it, don't blame me for all the content, I wasn't the author. Every once & a while I come across stuff while searching for something else. If I see something that 'might' be of interest to 'some' of us here, I post it, plain & simple.

Best, Dom P.

[1168]

Hey Kids, I just happened across it & forwarded it, don't blame me for all the content, I wasn't the author. Every once & a while I come across stuff while searching for something else. If I see something that 'might' be of interest to 'some' of us here, I post it, plain & simple.

Best, Dom P.

I appreciate this type of content.

[dpast32]

THANKS 1168, I appreciate it !! In fact, the other report, [ "In search of the ghost gun" ] or really what appears to be a Master's Thesis is also somewhat interesting, as it follows the relative effectiveness of U.S.G.I. Infantry Small Arms up until at least the RVN era, & possibly further, but I've yet to finish reading it through. THANKS AGAIN

Best, Dom