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    2021 Gunfight: Arvada, CO: LEO, CCW, & BG- and coming gun laws.

    Officer dispatched due to suspicious activity in the historic Old Arvada towncenter. When officer Beesley arrives to investigate, he is ambushed, and killed. The perp was laying in wait to kill an officer.

    John Hurley, shopping in an Army Surplus store hears the shot, and tells everyone to take cover, draws his CCW and leaves the store. He can see the shooter coming, tells outdoor lunchtime diners to go inside. He engages the bad guy with 5-6 shots wounding him. Unfortunately, John Hurley is also mortally wounded. Bad guy either succumbs to Hurley's shots of shoots himself (unclear). Officer Beesley, John Hurley and the scumbag all die. The exact circumstances of Hurley's being shot have not been released. Police say that Hurley likely stopped there from being more widespread death and carnage.

    Shooting happened Jun21 about 1:15. They have been slow rolling this story out over the past 24 hours. Hurley was originally called a 'good Samaritan". And Audie Murphy was an actor.

    gunman wore all black, including a tactical vest, and calmly fired a rifle.

    "He didn't seem worried about anything," said Wiest, who stared at the gunman as he stood near the body of a man, apparently the fallen policeman, in the street. He said he saw the shooter calmly survey the scene
    And another zonked out shooter.

    Beesley, a 19-year veteran with the department since 2002, worked as a patrol officer, field training officer, motorcycle officer and as a school resource officer at Oberon Middle School.

    Hurley was just a good guy with a gun who saw a bad guy with a gun and put him down hard, and paid for it with his life.

    This past weekend, our Gov. Jared Polis signed three more anti-civil rights laws meant to further burden law abiding gun owners. The most impactful was a statewide 'preemption law' that will allow local cities to put sweeping clampdowns on CCWing and firearms in general.

    Here's to Gordon Beesley who was 'just doing his job', and John Hurley who stepped up when it wasn't his job.

    I'm sickened by the way the press is covering this officer when a year ago it was all negative coverage about officers- and the perp had a “expressed hatred” for law enforecement. Considering the dude is dead, you can only infer that he had a history of violence and threats.

    https://conandaily.com/2021/06/23/jo...d-troyke-shot/

    https://conandaily.com/2021/06/22/go...d-troyke-shot/
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    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    Bad deal.

    How does that line go? "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns"?
    Hope Colorado enjoys their new Utopia. Fuktards.
    A true "Gun Guy" (or gal) should have familiarity and a modicum of proficiency with most all firearms platforms.

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    Damn, I have friends that live a third of a mile from there. I can't find any mention of the shooter's name, I assume he doesn't have a name that would fit the agenda.
    Sic semper tyrannis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    Damn, I have friends that live a third of a mile from there. I can't find any mention of the shooter's name, I assume he doesn't have a name that would fit the agenda.
    The shooters name is listed in the OP’s linked article.
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    To dems/MSM, cops are either heroes or villains depending on what serves the agenda best at the time.

    There has been a lot of coverage on Beesley's killing...and the "bystander". I guess we're in a "cops are heroes" cycle now that orange man is gone.

    On a relate topic, I'm not sure it's worth even keeping a CO CCW anymore. If I didn't already have one, I certainly wouldn't register myself as a gunowner with the state in order to get one now.

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    What a coincidence that the shooter wore all black and shot a cop with a rifle at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerplode View Post
    To dems/MSM, cops are either heroes or villains depending on what serves the agenda best at the time.

    There has been a lot of coverage on Beesley's killing...and the "bystander". I guess we're in a "cops are heroes" cycle now that orange man is gone.

    On a relate topic, I'm not sure it's worth even keeping a CO CCW anymore. If I didn't already have one, I certainly wouldn't register myself as a gunowner with the state in order to get one now.
    Bad enough here. But to come here with an out of state CCW and try to parse the laws that are potentially going to pass. It will be un-manageable. And that isn't a bug of their plans, that is a feature. Make it so hard to follow the law, that people will just give up.

    Polis really has pissed me off. He has tried to come across as middle of the road guy, but this is just bad governance. I'm pretty sure that he runs again next year. I don't care if we end up with Chewbacca from the Denver City Council, I want to do everything to make sure that ass hat doesn't get re-elected and ruin his chances of every running for POTUS/VP
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THCDDM4 View Post
    The shooters name is listed in the OP’s linked article.
    Yup I missed that. Almost nothing online after a quick Google search though, even the OP site is just about nothing.
    Sic semper tyrannis.

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    From the reporting I saw this morning, it seems like maybe it's starting to look like another Arvada officer might have been the one that shot John Hurley...Be interesting to see how that plays out over the next couple days.

    KUSA has had a couple pretty positive stories about Mr Hurley, which is both surprising and refreshing. Given the way things have been leaning in this state, I figured it'd be a cold day in hell before the Colorado media reported anything resembling a story about a citizen with a CCW stopping a larger tragedy.

    RIP John Hurley

    Say his name...

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    I can think of two events off the top of my head in Florida.

    First one is where parents in the drop off lane probably prevented a school shooting when they basically grabbed a gun and went and got their kids while doing the "F you, out of my way I'm rescuing my kid and anyone else who wants to go outside with me."

    Second was a guy who pulled over to help a police officer who was under fire or had been shot (I kept getting two versions of the story) and actually shot at least one of the bad guys.

    Neither one was reported but I knew too many people peripherally involved for them to be urban legend. Ironically everyone was told to STFU about it.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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