Facebook news or not?

[Diamondback]

But this IS also about why use that platform?? Don’t give a rat’s *** what someone using facebook thinks about my intelligence.

So much this, I don't need to care what some electronically-addled retard thinks of my intelligence when I have the Stanford-Binet telling me all I need to know on that front. (I don't like to brag, preferring to describe myself as "just a lucky SOB who more skilled and experienced people picked up and carried across the finish-line," but some people just really bring out the worst in me with the reliability of clockwork.)

[tgizzard]

If you use Facebook, you are supporting it. Regardless of what you use it for.

Stop using it. It has nothing you can’t get elsewhere without supporting evil.

Seriously, look in the mirror when you bitch about this shit if you are active on FB.

mic drop.


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[Wildcat]

If you use Facebook, you are supporting it. Regardless of what you use it for.

Stop using it. It has nothing you can’t get elsewhere without supporting evil.

Seriously, look in the mirror when you bitch about this shit if you are active on FB.

^^^^^^This! All day long.

[utahjeepr]

Well the wife deleted her FB account today, of her own volition not something I said. She says she's having withdrawal symptoms but she thinks she's gonna live.

[SteyrAUG]

If you use Facebook, you are supporting it. Regardless of what you use it for.

Stop using it. It has nothing you can’t get elsewhere without supporting evil.

Seriously, look in the mirror when you bitch about this shit if you are active on FB.

Serious question. What is the FB alternative for FB members who try and find me on FB? I do a little bit of biz on FB and would hate to loose that revenue. Kind of like using PP, if somebody wants to pay by PP, I know they suck but I'm not gonna say "never mind, no sale" I'm going to accept payment.

I have not found a PP alternative for people who WANT to make payment by PP and I have not found a social media page that is satisfactory to people who want to contact me via FB. Not disputing anything you have said, but I'm a bit at the mercy of the paying customer and their preferences.

[tgizzard]

Serious question. What is the FB alternative for FB members who try and find me on FB? I do a little bit of biz on FB and would hate to loose that revenue. Kind of like using PP, if somebody wants to pay by PP, I know they suck but I'm not gonna say "never mind, no sale" I'm going to accept payment.

I have not found a PP alternative for people who WANT to make payment by PP and I have not found a social media page that is satisfactory to people who want to contact me via FB. Not disputing anything you have said, but I'm a bit at the mercy of the paying customer and their preferences.

I mean no disrespect here and I don’t run my own business - so I may be out of my depth.

Can people not just interact and do business with you through your own web page? Again, there was an internet before the big social media companies came on the scene. Personally, as I’ve stated above, I found that version of the internet to have been way better than what we have now.

The problem - as I see it - is social media sites made an already easy experience even easier. Now everything is right there on one site. No going from page to page to find what you want. Problem is once they got a ton of people addicted - they started curating what people can see, find, and interact with. Their policies on what is and isn’t allowed are obviously based in their political views, which trend hard left. Why continue to support and prop that up?

It isn’t that hard to type in a web address or do a search for a particular web site that one wants to find.


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[Arik]

I mean no disrespect here and I don’t run my own business - so I may be out of my depth.

Can people not just interact and do business with you through your own web page? Again, there was an internet before the big social media companies came on the scene. Personally, as I’ve stated above, I found that version of the internet to have been way better than what we have now.

The problem - as I see it - is social media sites made an already easy experience even easier. Now everything is right there on one site. No going from page to page to find what you want. Problem is once they got a ton of people addicted - they started curating what people can see, find, and interact with. Their policies on what is and isn’t allowed are obviously based in their political views, which trend hard left. Why continue to support and prop that up?

It isn’t that hard to type in a web address or do a search for a particular web site that one wants to find.


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I think one of the reasons is it's easier to post on FB or CL then it is to update a website. Before FB I never saw businesses like gun stores update their inventory in real time. It used to be just a list of manufacturers they carry. But that was back then. I don't know if it's different now.

Having said that, I never had or used FB so this is just a guess. Back when it first came out....even before that with MyPage.....I never understood the logic behind, and those who said I should get it could never explain why... so I never got into it because it seemed pointless to me

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[SteyrAUG]

I mean no disrespect here and I don’t run my own business - so I may be out of my depth.

Can people not just interact and do business with you through your own web page? Again, there was an internet before the big social media companies came on the scene. Personally, as I’ve stated above, I found that version of the internet to have been way better than what we have now.

The problem - as I see it - is social media sites made an already easy experience even easier. Now everything is right there on one site. No going from page to page to find what you want. Problem is once they got a ton of people addicted - they started curating what people can see, find, and interact with. Their policies on what is and isn’t allowed are obviously based in their political views, which trend hard left. Why continue to support and prop that up?

It isn’t that hard to type in a web address or do a search for a particular web site that one wants to find.


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The problem is the people who expect to find a FB page and won't look for anything else. Also maintaining my own page would add a sorta significant operating cost that would increase prices and make me slightly less competitive and in a world where being 10 cents cheaper means you own a dramatically larger market share that is a very big thing.

20 years ago I could simply do a LOT of business on the various message boards, then that started to become more and more expensive to the point that profits generated didn't offset the costs of maintaining a "dealer account" simply because I wasn't a very aggressive advertiser.

It's easy to ask most guys on this forum to bail on FB, the only thing they miss are seeing updates of what somebody they know ate for lunch that day. But there is a significant FB population that is lazy or whatever who treats FB like google and if you aren't on FB they aren't gonna find you let alone buy anything.

It's one of those nature of the beast realities of the world. Far worse were merchant accounts. Years ago after paying for the privilege of processing credit cards on my my merchant services decided (without warning) that they were changing their policies regarding firearm sales and they froze my account during a Colt group buy and locked up something like $25,000 in sales and it cost me about 5% to make sure everyone involved got a 100% refund. So FB politics are like a rainy day to me compare to some of the absolute BS I've endured.

Nothing like giving away a free rifle just to make sure everybody who placed an order with you got all their money back. Now I simply don't accept credit cards, which decreases my market share but I'm just not willing to risk that kind of "we are taking all your money and you have to pay to get it back" scenario again.

That means I have to have a FB presence to take up some slack. Ironically I'm a bit outlaw and FB really doesn't want anyone generating firearm sales on their platform, but they don't control the money so screw them...I'll do business they don't approve of until it's no longer worth it to me.

[Diamondback]

I mean no disrespect here and I don’t run my own business - so I may be out of my depth.

Can people not just interact and do business with you through your own web page? Again, there was an internet before the big social media companies came on the scene. Personally, as I’ve stated above, I found that version of the internet to have been way better than what we have now.

The problem - as I see it - is social media sites made an already easy experience even easier. Now everything is right there on one site. No going from page to page to find what you want. Problem is once they got a ton of people addicted - they started curating what people can see, find, and interact with. Their policies on what is and isn’t allowed are obviously based in their political views, which trend hard left. Why continue to support and prop that up?

It isn’t that hard to type in a web address or do a search for a particular web site that one wants to find.


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The problem isn't "Can they," it's "WILL the mouthbreathing morons take an extra few seconds away from their monkeyhumping crap to do it?" Social media has bred an entire generation with the attention span of a goldfish and a similar memory--and thy expect instant gratification, for SOMEBODY to bring them whatever they immediately desire RIGHT NOW without them having to lift a finger or take their eye off Farcebook or Twaddle or whatever brain-rotting digital-narcotics are the hot new thing today.

*read this in Captain Barbossa's voice* "Ye best start believin' in Idiocracy, matey... yer livin' in one!"

[THCDDM4]

Serious question. What is the FB alternative for FB members who try and find me on FB? I do a little bit of biz on FB and would hate to loose that revenue. Kind of like using PP, if somebody wants to pay by PP, I know they suck but I'm not gonna say "never mind, no sale" I'm going to accept payment.

I have not found a PP alternative for people who WANT to make payment by PP and I have not found a social media page that is satisfactory to people who want to contact me via FB. Not disputing anything you have said, but I'm a bit at the mercy of the paying customer and their preferences.

You’ve got to decide what is more important to you. Sounds like you’ve made that choice.

FB and PP are easy, yes, but what you give/give up in return- it’s no small
Sum.

There are lots of ways to market your goods. I won’t tell you how or where to run your business, I don’t know enough about it to even begin that conversation.

I will say- if you use it, you support it, even the stuff you don’t like or agree with. It’s just reality.

In my business I was given a proposal by drive marketing, which has an AI system that links with FB’s AI to generate leads on a massive scale- called “milk”.

It would be the easiest way to attain my 3 and 10 year goals with the best ROI.

I could have gone that route and it would feed my business very well, with a likely 40-50X return in a little over 20 months with how I already have my marketing and sales funnels and lead channels already dialed in.

I declined. I hate Facebook and I refuse to feed the monster.

I’m going to have to do many things and get real creative to grow from an $8MIL bizz to a $20MIL bizz over the next 3 years- that’s my goal and my team will do it, without FB.

It won’t be easy- but I’ll be damned if I’m going to contribute to the downfall of the country and support the machine that selectively silences my point of view and diminishes and de-platform’s Conservative and libertarian views.

Personally, I have devoted my $ and efforts into generating repeat and referral business generation and maximized our SEO to drive people to find our website in the most organic way we can. From there the sales funnel is robust, the service and products are second to none, the client experience is well curated and ease of use drives the end user to work with us, we plant seeds of referrals and have a rewards program set up.

We’ve also set up our business and guarantee to create a fence around our clients and keep them coming back for the next service/product they may need with remarketing campaigns.

Giving in to what is easy over what is right has gotten us where we are currently.

It can all be done without FB.