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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex V View Post
    Agreed, I don’t mind cops having the discount, they have a hard job and most don’t get paid enough for the shit they have to deal with. It’s just annoying that there are two segregated inventory systems with one being stocked and the other one with empty shelves.

    I understand there is less demand with one than the other but it’s still BS. Just have an LEO discount and not segregated sales.
    Oh I agree with you there. It was really weird when the G44 came out and blue label pricing was the same if not more than red label pricing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    So if you are a vet or a non vet, reselling new guns without a FFL is dangerous doo doo to engage in.
    I know of a cop that was indited by a Federal Grand Jury for doing just that. He would go around looking for guns that were at a very good price, buy them and then resell them. He was doing like 6 to 10 guns a month without a FFL.

    Does the gun store have to make a copy of the credentials of the officer to sell them a blue label gun?

    If the answer is no, then what would keep them from selling a blue label gun to anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    I know of a cop that was indited by a Federal Grand Jury for doing just that. He would go around looking for guns that were at a very good price, buy them and then resell them. He was doing like 6 to 10 guns a month without a FFL.

    Does the gun store have to make a copy of the credentials of the officer to sell them a blue label gun?

    If the answer is no, then what would keep them from selling a blue label gun to anyone?
    There is a separate form that has to be completed by the FFL in addition to the 4473 when a Fireman, Police Officer or other qualified person purchases a Blue Label Glock. The form I saw requires the FFL to verify they have valid credentials, document their place of employment and their work unit.

    I could not get ATF or the U.S. Attorney's office to tell me the number of firearms an individual would have to sell for them to be required to have a FFL. The officer you mentioned would definitely draw their attention and merit a Federal Grand Jury indictment.

    Locally a Blue Label Glock 48 is $418, which is $38 higher than the same gun listed on the GSSF document on Post # 17.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post
    There is a separate form that has to be completed by the FFL in addition to the 4473 when a Fireman, Police Officer or other qualified person purchases a Blue Label Glock. The form I saw requires the FFL to verify they have valid credentials, document their place of employment and their work unit.

    I could not get ATF or the U.S. Attorney's office to tell me the number of firearms an individual would have to sell for them to be required to have a FFL. The officer you mentioned would definitely draw their attention and merit a Federal Grand Jury indictment.

    Locally a Blue Label Glock 48 is $418, which is $38 higher than the same gun listed on the GSSF document on Post # 17.
    Regardless of the paperwork involved, having 2 different labels (inventories) is stupid. The paperwork and discount can be filled out and given regardless of the color of a label.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post

    I could not get ATF or the U.S. Attorney's office to tell me the number of firearms an individual would have to sell for them to be required to have a FFL. The officer you mentioned would definitely draw their attention and merit a Federal Grand Jury indictment.
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    Yeah of course not.

    That is like having a drunk driver law that the blood alcohol level is secret and changes everyday depending on what number is pulled out of the hat.

    How is that acceptable in the USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    Yeah of course not.

    That is like having a drunk driver law that the blood alcohol level is secret and changes everyday depending on what number is pulled out of the hat.

    How is that acceptable in the USA?
    I don't understand how they get away with that subjectivity. "Engaged in the business of selling firearms" is not a legal standard. Not sure how this has not been challenged.

    While a certain nasty part of me might like to see ammo scalpers hit as "unlicensed ammunition sellers", the liberty minded part of me knows better.

    Dealing in second hand goods as a private individual should be unregulated. I can see if you have a storefront, wholesale accounts, and so on but not just buying and selling a few guns here and there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post
    Locally a Blue Label Glock 48 is $418, which is $38 higher than the same gun listed on the GSSF document on Post # 17.
    Just checked. Here in Az a Blue Label 48 is 369 and the 48MOS is 409.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    I know of a cop that was indited by a Federal Grand Jury for doing just that. He would go around looking for guns that were at a very good price, buy them and then resell them. He was doing like 6 to 10 guns a month without a FFL.

    Does the gun store have to make a copy of the credentials of the officer to sell them a blue label gun?

    If the answer is no, then what would keep them from selling a blue label gun to anyone?
    For GSSF you have to give the FFL your issued coupon, and they attach it to their copy of the FFL form. Everyone else I know in LE has to show creds and they have to fill out a separate form as T2C mentioned.

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    Been several days and I’m still salty about it.

    Add insult to injury the Holosun 403 that I got from them was previously opened. Missing the manual, top foam, adjustment tool AND doesn’t work, even with a new battery.

    I’m not happy.

    Anyway, anyone have a line on a 48MOS that is Proles can buy? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    I know of a cop that was indited by a Federal Grand Jury for doing just that. He would go around looking for guns that were at a very good price, buy them and then resell them. He was doing like 6 to 10 guns a month without a FFL.

    Does the gun store have to make a copy of the credentials of the officer to sell them a blue label gun?

    If the answer is no, then what would keep them from selling a blue label gun to anyone?
    Serial numbers ending up in non LEO hands. Glock does traces all the time. They traced a bunch through me and I had to tell them who I sold them to.
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