C*ck Blocked at the Gun Store

[Stickman]

Why should cops be able to buy anything we cannot? Total bullshit! For years I have refused to do business with anyone who offers LEO discounts.

It has nothing to do with that. Loads of people qualify for blue label Glocks.

[Alex V]

So sell the guns that were allocated for first responders for higher price to non LE because demand says so?

Yeah, why not?

"MUH SPEHSHUL BRO-PRIVUHLEGES!" I'm not even a Glock guy, I have no dog in this fight; my perspective is a Recovering Business Major looking at it through Management and Accounting eyes trying to figure out how to administer such a program at same benefit for minimum corporate cost. If they Blue Label a third of the run on a model and BL's decide they hate it, somebody's taking a bath on that inventory.

If *I* were chasing a G48MOS, I'd see about volunteering as a desk clerk at my local FD a few hours a month, just enough to get a cred. Holds no interest to me as a 1911 guy, though, so. Y'all Do Y'all.

That post went everywhere and nowhere at the same time.

[Diamondback]

An alternate option would be to set an expiration on Blue Label allocation; say, after it's sat on the shelf for two months it can be reallocated to Red Label at higher price by phoning into HQ, having the original Blue entry for that serial deleted and transferred into the database as a new Red and printing a new label for the box. You still have the "double inventory and double SKU's" problem though.

"Amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics."

Peace fellas, I'm outta this one.

[sidewaysil80]

Yeah, why not?

1. It's unethical as they obtained those firearms at a lower price SPECIFICALLY to sell to the litany of people who qualify for them at a lower price then retail
2. Probably not worth the risk to lose Blue Label dealer status to appease those complaining

An alternate option would be to set an expiration on Blue Label allocation; say, after it's sat on the shelf for two months it can be reallocated to Red Label at higher price by phoning into HQ, having the original Blue entry for that serial deleted and transferred into the database as a new Red and printing a new label for the box. You still have the "double inventory and double SKU's" problem though.

Not to mention the fact that there is a pricing difference between wholesale blue label and red label guns. So selling them as red label doesn't fix the fact that they bought them at lower blue label price.

[Alex V]

1. It's unethical as they obtained those firearms at a lower price SPECIFICALLY to sell to the litany of people who qualify for them at a lower price then retail
2. Probably not worth the risk to lose Blue Label dealer status to appease those complaining

Not what I meant. I’m still saying to just have one set of SKUs. One inventory that can be sold to either but at different prices. That way the stock goes to whoever gets it rather than have guns sit when people want to buy em but can’t.

[SteyrAUG]

This would be fine if they were the same inventory. Meaning there is one SKU for a G48, for instance, but the seller offers a discount to the LEO. That's cool. The problem is there are two separate SKUs one for LEOs and one for citizens. This means the retailer can't sell the LEO SKU to the citizen - not a problem IF both are equally stocked, but they aren't. The LEO SKU is available [due to lower demand from a smaller pool of customers], the citizen one isn't. I haven't been able to find a non Blue Label 48MOS in a year, but I found two blue label ones on Saturday that I wasn't allowed to buy.

Yep, it's a bunch of shit.

How do you think sellers feel having inventory they can't move. We've covered a LOT of reasons the Blue Label program sucks. Another one is Blue Labels used to come with 3 mags and Red Labels only 2 mags? Why?

What happens is when I sell Red Label Glocks to most folks, half of them believe I've robbed a magazine because all the guys who can buy Blue Labels got 3 mags. So it makes sellers look like a crook.

Never mind the "anti gun" message of "only LE is professional enough to need 3 mags" it sorta sends. The whole thing is such a headache that I won't even buy Glocks from Glock, I can order the same blue label guns for exactly the same dealer price from a couple LE suppliers I know because you have to sell the Glocks for the same LE price. So that means nobody is really making any money selling Blue Label guns.

I only order them "as needed" for the LE guys who aren't allowed to carry anything else.

[SteyrAUG]

An alternate option would be to set an expiration on Blue Label allocation; say, after it's sat on the shelf for two months it can be reallocated to Red Label at higher price by phoning into HQ, having the original Blue entry for that serial deleted and transferred into the database as a new Red and printing a new label for the box. You still have the "double inventory and double SKU's" problem though.

"Amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics."

Peace fellas, I'm outta this one.

HAH. Never happen. Glock once tracked me down about Blue Labels I sold two years prior that got into the mainstream. I had to show them I sold them to a LE dealer, but somebody down the road got their Blue Label privileges revoked.

[SteyrAUG]

Not to mention the fact that there is a pricing difference between wholesale blue label and red label guns. So selling them as red label doesn't fix the fact that they bought them at lower blue label price.

I actually make more money selling red labels. There is about a $10 markup on Blue Label guns, which is why it's frustrating for non first responders to qualify for the program. This also creates a perception the all Glocks should cost about $425 which is actually $20 less than my dealer price for red labels so people think I'm jacking their prices through the roof.

Blue Label programs hurt dealers and piss off customers.

[SteyrAUG]

Some of the biggest whiny babies on this forum are crying in this thread. Entertaining!

LOL. Hope you don't mean me. I'm just pointing out how stupid Blue Label programs are and how it essentially makes me sell Glocks only when I need to. The whole thing is counter productive. What is worse, when I actually have a LE customer trying to buy a Blue Label Glock, I typically have half a dozen of what he doesn't want because EVERYONE only wants a G17 or G19. But I do have a compensated 40 nobody wanted. Had a few LE customers who paid extra for Red Label G17s because I couldn't guarantee when I'd have a Blue G17.

[BuzzinSATX]

The Glock BL program has worked out well for me as a customer, but I’ve bought every BL gun from GT Distributors in Austin. I’ve bought over 20 Glocks over the years, and two were NOT BL guns.

I can see how it’s frustrating for other folks. I didn’t ask for the program, but when I learned about it, I use it. No different than any other military discounts I get from other companies. A lack of a military discounts doesn’t stop me from buying from anyone, but if offered, I’ll use it. Lowe’s and Home Depot also offer one and I use it.

Folks making $000,000 salaries aren’t looking to be LEO’s, prison guards, EMT’s, or GI’s. But they sure can have issues with a $50 discount or a few extra guns set aside for those who do those things.

I don’t know the allocation ratio between Red and Blue label guns to dealers, but I do know there are a heck of a lot more places to buy red labels than blue labels. If you can’t find a gun you can buy at an authorized BL dealer, head to Cabelas/Academy/Bass Pro/Interwebs.

Not trying to be an ass or disrespect anyone, just how I see it.


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