Geissele rifles & uppers.

[Cane55]

Do you guys feel that Geissele rifles & uppers are top tier (like the prices they are asking for them) like KAC, Noveske, BCM, DD etc? Or should I go with a different brand? Thanks.

[dan1612]

I’ve had them all. I believe Geissele currently makes the best conventional DI gun on the market.
Properly gassed, pinned block, chrome lined, nice fit and finish, and some of the best controls on the market. Also, at least for my preferences, ready to go out of the box (almost). When you consider what you get in features at the sale or coupon prices that can be easily had, it’s a no brainer for me.

[17K]

I’ve had them all. I believe Geissele currently makes the best conventional DI gun on the market.
Properly gassed, pinned block, chrome lined, nice fit and finish, and some of the best controls on the market. Also, at least for my preferences, ready to go out of the box (almost). When you consider what you get in features at the sale or coupon prices that can be easily had, it’s a no brainer for me.

I agree.

[Wake27]

Nope, not at all. All of those brands have been around for a long time and have been proven many times over. It’s possible that they will be on an equal playing field one day, and many that have their guns are strong supporters, but they have a long way to go IMO.


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[sidewaysil80]

Second the best DI gun on the market comment. Regardless of how long other companies have been around, the materials and craftsmanship in which they are building rifles, combined with their previous products and proven performance in austere environments confirm their quality/longevity. About the only thing that would be hard to test/confirm is their reports of bolt lug longevity due to forged design/steel. The only other company offering such an enhancement is Knights, and E3 lug has been around long enough to prove itself durable. Assuming the Geissele design works as advertised (I'm sure they tested and R&D'd extensively) it has the advantage to E3 design due to it being interchangeable with standard bolts/barrels.

The most significant features to me are:
-reduced dwell time by using custom gas length
-properly sized gas port in conjunction with said gas port
-forged bolt with higher grade steel
-centering tab in rails/upper

In addition to the above, the fact you get a surefire warcomp, arguably the best ar trigger available, H2 buffer, and enhanced controls...all at $1500 LESS then it's only competitor with such features makes it a no brainer.

[Pappabear]

Second the best DI gun on the market comment. Regardless of how long other companies have been around, the materials and craftsmanship in which they are building rifles, combined with their previous products and proven performance in austere environments confirm their quality/longevity. About the only thing that would be hard to test/confirm is their reports of bolt lug longevity due to forged design/steel. The only other company offering such an enhancement is Knights, and E3 lug has been around long enough to prove itself durable. Assuming the Geissele design works as advertised (I'm sure they tested and R&D'd extensively) it has the advantage to E3 design due to it being interchangeable with standard bolts/barrels.

The most significant features to me are:
-reduced dwell time by using custom gas length
-properly sized gas port in conjunction with said gas port
-forged bolt with higher grade steel
-centering tab in rails/upper

In addition to the above, the fact you get a surefire warcomp, arguably the best ar trigger available, H2 buffer, and enhanced controls...all at $1500 LESS then it's only competitor with such features makes it a no brainer.

I agree too. If I were buying gun today the G gun would be hard to not buy. I’ve always said that KAC AR 15’s are a solid deal price to value. And I think G guns fit in that category.

PB

[everready73]

Nope, not at all. All of those brands have been around for a long time and have been proven many times over. It’s possible that they will be on an equal playing field one day, and many that have their guns are strong supporters, but they have a long way to go IMO.


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I agree with this and stick with them for accessories. They are cutting some corners on new guns as well. They black oxide the barrels now, not phosphate. It doesnt hold up as well. Also multiple price increases. You can get better for the same money, or less IMO. They may be there someday but not now

[Illustrator76]

Nope, not at all. All of those brands have been around for a long time and have been proven many times over. It’s possible that they will be on an equal playing field one day, and many that have their guns are strong supporters, but they have a long way to go IMO.


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I'm surprised to hear you say that. Pretty much EVERYWHERE that I go it's a fairly unanimous opinion that it's Geissele for everything, and don't even ask anymore questions. Just get the Geissele and rest easy because everything they make is top tier. I'm not disagreeing with you at all, I'm just a bit surprised to hear this viewpoint.

[Jsp10477]

Meh… The Geissele BCG is interesting but nothing else about the gun interests me or stands out. IMO, LMT and KAC are where the innovation and improvements are.

[sidewaysil80]

You can get better for the same money, or less IMO. They may be there someday but not now

What manufacturer specifically and what makes it better?

Meh… The Geissele BCG is interesting but nothing else about the gun interests me or stands out. IMO, LMT and KAC are where the innovation and improvements are.

Realistically, the only real advantage KAC has is the ambi-lower. gas system, improved bolt, handguard interface...other then price there isn't really an advantage. Not to mention KAC recently enlarged their gas port on the mod 2's, so one could argue that Geissele's gas system is superior.