CDC To Announce COVID Vaccines Don’t Work on Delta Variant

**glocktogo** · 07-31-21, 01:01

Originally Posted by ABNAK

And can someone please tell me where, in all this madness, is the g-damn ChiCom penance?

For that matter, does anyone have any info on what is happening inside China itself with regards to their virus? Are they dying like flies? I can only hope so. Screw the ChiComs and ALL their people too. A YouTube interview Will posted a few months ago was pretty eye-opening about what the average Chinese thinks of America (hence my statement of "screw ALL of them"). At one time I was philosophically opposed to McArthur's plan for the ChiComs during the Korean War, but now I'm not so sure. The world might be a better place now. Just sayin'.......

We’re too worried about Taiwan flying a flag in Japan at the Olympics that might anger China. All while convincing our college kids that it’s bad to root for America at the games, and they should only cheer individuals, because obviously all nations are equal.

**FromMyColdDeadHand** · 07-31-21, 01:20

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/30/healt...udy/index.html

Question for our Massholes. Is Provincetown 'gay'. I was just on vacation back east and drove up and down Cape Cod. We drove all the way out to Provincetown- and it was, well, -gay. First I noticed that there were a lot of two guy groups walking around. Then, not a lot of women. Then it became clearer that it was gay couples. This was the weekend of July 17th.

Was just wondering since Provincetown and the 'party' atmosphere there supposedly fueled the outbreak. Didn't know if the gay part and higher rates of immuno compromise might have factored in.

All this masking over 6 hospitalizations and zero deaths.... No wonder their isn't a huge jump on masks.

Speaking of science experiments, We are about to run the largest one in history. GOP states are not going to mask up and in two months, actually probably a month, we'll know how far this whole delta thing was overblown.

#DeltaHoax or will be this what condemns the GOP to lose the 2022 elections.

ETA: Funny thing about science. I'd look at the data that came out of Provincetown and use to bolster the position that all is well and we are on the right path. There were infections. There were hospitalization, usually with underlying conditions and none serious with no deaths. That is why "science" and 'data' are not what the press plays them out to be. 'Follow the science and data' is meaningless because people can look at those two things and come to different decisions. Science and data are not leadership or decisions.

**SteyrAUG** · 07-31-21, 01:35

Originally Posted by ABNAK

And can someone please tell me where, in all this madness, is the g-damn ChiCom penance?

For that matter, does anyone have any info on what is happening inside China itself with regards to their virus? Are they dying like flies? I can only hope so. Screw the ChiComs and ALL their people too. A YouTube interview Will posted a few months ago was pretty eye-opening about what the average Chinese thinks of America (hence my statement of "screw ALL of them"). At one time I was philosophically opposed to McArthur's plan for the ChiComs during the Korean War, but now I'm not so sure. The world might be a better place now. Just sayin'.......

So you do know that the average Chinese person is given their opinion by state tv and state news yes? They can't just pop on the internet and google "truth of Tienanmen Square." Not making excuses for the true believers, but I suspect 75% of that country is effectively captive by one means or another.

**SteyrAUG** · 07-31-21, 01:39

Originally Posted by glocktogo

We’re too worried about Taiwan flying a flag in Japan at the Olympics that might anger China. All while convincing our college kids that it’s bad to root for America at the games, and they should only cheer individuals, because obviously all nations are equal.

Not really new, been that way since 1981. It's BS but it's been BS for a long time.

**Averageman** · 07-31-21, 02:18

Interesting developments in Indonesia.

**Business_Casual** · 07-31-21, 06:41

Have “cases” become “infections” in Newspeak?

**flenna** · 07-31-21, 06:53

Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand

You know what the Chi-Coms would have done in the reverse situation... They probably scratched their heads when they didn't get a can of sunshine, or a lot of round eyed Taiwanese pilots with mad skills...

Our enemies know they have it made. They can start a pandemic, crash our economy, sow discord and division and the American response will be "Trump's fault! Racism! White supremacy!" .

**ABNAK** · 07-31-21, 08:33

Originally Posted by SteyrAUG

So you do know that the average Chinese person is given their opinion by state tv and state news yes? They can't just pop on the internet and google "truth of Tienanmen Square." Not making excuses for the true believers, but I suspect 75% of that country is effectively captive by one means or another.

I've used a story as an analogy that will hopefully make my point: years ago my wife and I used to speed walk or jog on the streets where we used to live. Out in the country, but with a few houses around. There was a Rottweiler that would usually come out into the street and snarl while circling us. He had to go 120# easily. BIG dog. I managed to kind of shoo him away but he got braver. One day I said "Fvck it, we're not getting bit by that damn dog" and took my .357 on our next sortie. My wife said "You don't know how that dog was raised, maybe he was abused". I told her "If I'm about to get attacked I don't give a damn how that dog was brought up. What matters right then is that he's about to attack us". [Never did have to shoot the dog thankfully, the owner saw me pull out the revolver and he called his dog right away.....never did come back out after us. Funny how that works.]

So my point is that the Chinese are extremely nationalistic, whether they are diehard commies or not. They are also a homogenous society, not a "melting pot" like we are. We are seen as outsiders who threaten the Great Dragon. So commie or not they are reflexively Chinese to the core. Sure, many countries are but they are our biggest potential enemy and a "near-peer" to boot. Just like to some degree we held the German and Japanese people accountable for the actions of their government, so too we should hold the Chinese people to the same standard. In the video Will posted the gringo who spoke Mandarin lived there for a while and spoke to people all over. Their comments didn't seem communist-leaning, but instead fiercely nationalistic. Go Team China! Screw the Yankee dogs kind of thing. Well, fine, I hate you bastards too. ALL of you.

**P2Vaircrewman** · 07-31-21, 08:56

Originally Posted by Todd.K

Once you are willing to admit the second one, and I understand it’s hard to fully process, but are you so sure the first one is still true? What if they want to extend the panic and emergency powers rather than get to a solution?

Somebody needs to keep getting sick and dying.

The totalitarian mandates are so ridiculously over the top and the messaging so bad... you have to wonder if it’s by design to solidify vaccine hesitancy into refusal.

Plus, when in history has a communist cared one bit how many of his own countrymen need to be killed to advance communism?

Democrats used the virus to their advantage in 2020 and want to do the same in 2022.