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    I’m 27 year old, very active, healthy male and I got the shot. Maybe I’m brainwashed, but we were concerned about taking care of the girlfriends grandparents, so I got it. Nothing adverse has happened.

    Now, I’m disgusted with the forced vaccination, the lies, etc. I’m not masking again and I’m not getting another vaccine.
    It is from the construction of underground FEMA camps. I can't say more because there a guy parked in front of house in an AMC Pacer. He is acting like he talking on the phone, but I know better.

    I have to sign off now & put my laptop in the microwave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    Try reading this...

    Why are they so desperate to get 100% compliance on the ??


    https://alt-market.us/why-are-global...ination-rates/


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    Hahaha, no.

    It’s because big pharma are making money hand over fist! This is the single greatest wealth transfer since Noah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    Try reading this...

    Why are they so desperate to get 100% compliance on the ??


    https://alt-market.us/why-are-global...ination-rates/


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    From the article
    ".......I am speaking of the US in particular, but it is important to point out that in the US the establishment is still desperately clamoring for a much higher vaccination rate. In places like Europe, the UK and Australia vaccinations rates are higher"

    Australia's vaccination rates aren't higher. In fact they're only at about 15% for fully vaccinated and double for 1st dose. With 12.3 million doses given. US on the other hand is at 50% with 346 million doses

    UK is at 57%
    Germany and Italy 52%
    France 47%
    Spain 57%
    Canada 59%
    Poland 46%

    So we're pretty much in line with everyone else even though we have a lot more people.
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    Yeah, my girlfriend is all-in brainwashed and I'm trying to figure out how to tell her that for many people there is GOOD REASON to distrust the "public health authorities" in the US leading pushing this, between Tuskegee Syphilis, shooting kids up with radioactives just for shitzngigglez in the '50s and the delieberate blocking of potential AIDS tratments like AZT in the '80s...

    I'm probably butchering it, but there's an old legal presumption of "false in one, false in all"--and three BIG datapoints of Prior Bad Acting by the CDC and its fellow Alphabet Soup, two of them participated in by one Anthony Fauci in particular, kind of establishes a certain Rebuttable Presumption of continued bad acts and bad faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Yeah, my girlfriend is all-in brainwashed and I'm trying to figure out how to tell her that for many people there is GOOD REASON to distrust the "public health authorities" in the US leading pushing this, between Tuskegee Syphilis, shooting kids up with radioactives just for shitzngigglez in the '50s and the delieberate blocking of potential AIDS tratments like AZT in the '80s...

    I'm probably butchering it, but there's an old legal presumption of "false in one, false in all"--and three BIG datapoints of Prior Bad Acting by the CDC and its fellow Alphabet Soup, two of them participated in by one Anthony Fauci in particular, kind of establishes a certain Rebuttable Presumption of continued bad acts and bad faith.
    You don't even need to dredge up history to distrust this nonsense. Every single step taken by our "experts" has made this problem worse, not better.

    Steve Kirsch has a $2M reward out there for anyone who can point to one thing that has been done correctly since this nonsense started. He still holds his $2M and has had no takers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmorris View Post
    This is the best stated synopsis I have seen of the reality I’m living.
    Trying to have a logical conversation about all of this has been far harder than actually taking care of my COVID patients.
    You sir, give me hope.
    Doing the best I can doc, but it's mostly an echo chamber in this thread. I will add that we had (have?) some excellent med pros here who commented in the beginning, supplied a lot of great info, are are either lurking or left, apparently tired of combating info that's easily debunked, and just repeated over and over. I fully "get" the frustration of people, feel the powers that be let us down on every possible level, have missed opportunities for treatments, and think they can vaccine their way out of this current situation. But, we are where are and must work from there, and politicization weaponization of the topic from day one continues to prevent that, leaving all of us in the middle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rmorris View Post
    Not deadlier, more contagious.

    I’m a physician in conservative rural Texas and vaccine hesitancy is high here. Most older and high risk people still got the vaccine right away, and they seem to have concluded the risk benefit of it was in favor of the vaccine. I expect it will be at least partially effective at keeping the death rates overall lower. If a lot of people get sick in a hurry, it may still be overwhelming. On the other hand we could get to herd immunity faster…
    What is the SOC these days you follow? On herd immunity, I wrote about that when all this started in Medium, but in retrospect, the US being close to one big co morbidity (that's the elephant in the room no one wants to actually talk about in my view...), I'm not convinced it would work in the US, unless people are ok with far more deaths than seen so far:

    https://willbrink.medium.com/covid-1...s-c1fb4ef96773


    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    There is no win here. It would be easier to fix the illegal immigration problem than the COVID problem. Get the shot and live your life.
    While taking at least the minimum supps supported by adequate data (D, C, Zinc, Mag, etc), losing weight is needed, getting regular exercise, and not eating crap for food, thus greatly reducing risks of serious complications and death from covid, yes. That however requires taking some personal responsibility for the outcomes of exposure, a very unpopular thing in the US these days. Not directed at you, general observations.

    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    Have you listen to what the man who created the MRNA has to say about the experimental vaccine?

    https://listen.warroom.org/e/episode...peter-navarro/

    If haven't listened why?
    How many times you going to post that? Starters, he didn't create mRNA vaccines, and that's normally credited to Dr. Katalin Karikó and her collaborator Dr. Drew Weissman. On being questioned about his claim, he responded "... he did not invent the mRNA vaccines, but instead the 'vaccine technology platform.' He also presented copies of nine patents – none of which showed that he invented the mRNA vaccines."

    He's obviously a very smart guy, and I have been paying attention to what he's been saying, I suspect, before you ever heard of him. He makes a lot of legit points in that interview, some that are easy to take out of context, especially for people who lack the sci/med background to understand the nuances of what he's actually saying in context of the topic.

    He's 100% right that we will not vaccine our way out of covid, that all discussions of potential side effects of the vaccines are being suppressed, that it's bad science to do so, and in my view, only gives the hard core anti vaxer types (which he clearly is not), ammo for their claims it's all a secret plot control our minds with nanno bots...something something Bill Gates...something something population control by Soros, etc.

    Note he stresses those who are at high risk, such as the morbidly obese (his example), should be vaccinated. The real problem is, the US is one big fat (pun intended...) co morbidity, and 'Murican's are not prepared to pay that price for herd immunity as it will really happen minus the vaccines. I wrote about herd immunity when all this got really started in Medium:

    https://willbrink.medium.com/covid-1...s-c1fb4ef96773

    While I agree with Malone on most of what he's saying, he's also being used by the anti vax crowed like a $2 hooker, having much what he's saying taken out of context, or simply not understood, and to date, and we should follow his recs starting at min 37 of that interview.
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    Lindsey Graham happy the jab saved him from getting sicker...smh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Artos View Post
    Lindsey Graham happy the jab saved him from getting sicker...smh.


    https://mobile.twitter.com/LindseyGr...72144059289602
    Can you prove otherwise?

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    I think the big fat American's thing is an extreme generalization and is exaggerated. I look at the people in my neighborhood and none of them are "o-beast" but appear to be relatively fit and normal.

    For my sample of one, I weigh the same as I did in high school with the same or lower body fat content. (Its been a very long time since I was in high school.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artos View Post
    Lindsey Graham happy the jab saved him from getting sicker...smh.


    https://mobile.twitter.com/LindseyGr...72144059289602
    Guess Lindsey realized that was a stupid comment & deleted...Someone told my uncle he was lucky to get the jab when he was at his worst & snapped. 'I got the vaccine so I wouldn't get sick you idiot.'
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