CDC To Announce COVID Vaccines Don’t Work on Delta Variant

[SomeOtherGuy]

Does anybody else notice that the CDC claiming that the Delta variant is the new end of the world actually bootstraps their authority to unconstitutional to keep this eviction moratorium in place? How is nobody focusing on that? The other thing is that when this all ends what is going to happen to the property owners who are now way behind on their mortgages? Part of me wonders if this is a sophisticated plan to attack those private property owners and swoop in and take the rental properties and turn them into public housing. I definitely see that happening in cities like Portland and here in Denver.

I think you are on the right path of their plan and likely next steps.

If the courts were properly functioning, any person with a stake in this issue would be able to get an injunction against the CDC's declaration almost immediately. I think you will see that happen in a few district courts, then get tied up in circuit courts. SCOTUS might eventually take it but likely won't rule til sometime next year, at which point most landlords will be insolvent anyway.

[Artos]

Woohoo!! Delta PLUS...bring it!!


https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...ant-explained/

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I think you are on the right path of their plan and likely next steps.

If the courts were properly functioning, any person with a stake in this issue would be able to get an injunction against the CDC's declaration almost immediately. I think you will see that happen in a few district courts, then get tied up in circuit courts. SCOTUS might eventually take it but likely won't rule til sometime next year, at which point most landlords will be insolvent anyway.

How do you get one of those one-circuit/whole-country injunctions like they got against Trump and his immigration stuff?

Oct 1 is the real date to watch, by then, either delta had run its course and it amounts to nothing, or hospitals are over-run. I'm banking on it being a fizzle, with all kinds of anecdotal heart-string stories.

I think that they are just trying to whip people up to take a booster COVID Shot when they go in for their standard Flu shot.

[SomeOtherGuy]

How do you get one of those one-circuit/whole-country injunctions like they got against Trump and his immigration stuff?

Not my specialty, but from observing over the last 5+ years, they ONLY seem to be available if the person seeking them is a deep-state Democrat.

[okie]

Maybe I’m misremembering biology, but I think I was taught that virus mutation is always less lethal as an adaptation to stop killing the host, which is the only place the virus can replicate. Is there new “science” now?

That's exactly correct. The ideal virus doesn't want you or anyone else to know it's there. The most successful viruses are the ones that don't cause any symptoms whatsoever. They come and go all the time without anyone noticing. The worst viruses like Ebola and SARS are always unsuccessful because they cause major symptoms and often kill the host, limiting their ability to spread. The deadlier the virus, the lower its R0 value.

Now if COVID is manmade, though, it might be playing by different rules, especially if the vaccines are causing it to mutate in unnatural ways. The virologist who discovered AIDS is arguing that very thing. He claims that COVID is a manmade virus that has gene sequences taken from the AIDS virus. He's certainly one of the few people out there who understands this stuff who's not on someone's payroll. He's retired and has already won the Nobel prize, so he has nothing to lose by speaking the truth.

He's also saying that the vaccine is causing COVID to mutate faster, and that people who are vaccinated are more susceptible to the new variants, whereas people who have natural immunity are more immune to them. I know the data is saying otherwise, but there are many inconsistencies. Many retractions. First of all it was 60% of new cases were among the vaccinated, then it was 40%, and now they're claiming it's like 99%. Plus they're using different testing methods for vaccinated vs unvaccinated people. They'll basically run as many cycles as necessary to say an unvaccinated person has the virus. They also stopped counting vaccinated people who don't have serious symptoms.

So I guess we have a choice. We can believe the people who have constantly lied to us from the very beginning, or a Nobel prize winning virologist who's the top in his field, who has nothing to lose by speaking the truth.

[Honu]

YUP YUP ! Exactly what I am hearing from great sources to

Sure we are going to hear something else to make people panic and live in fear soon since as people are not obeying or freaking out enough

That's exactly correct. The ideal virus doesn't want you or anyone else to know it's there. The most successful viruses are the ones that don't cause any symptoms whatsoever. They come and go all the time without anyone noticing. The worst viruses like Ebola and SARS are always unsuccessful because they cause major symptoms and often kill the host, limiting their ability to spread. The deadlier the virus, the lower its R0 value.

Now if COVID is manmade, though, it might be playing by different rules, especially if the vaccines are causing it to mutate in unnatural ways. The virologist who discovered AIDS is arguing that very thing. He claims that COVID is a manmade virus that has gene sequences taken from the AIDS virus. He's certainly one of the few people out there who understands this stuff who's not on someone's payroll. He's retired and has already won the Nobel prize, so he has nothing to lose by speaking the truth.

He's also saying that the vaccine is causing COVID to mutate faster, and that people who are vaccinated are more susceptible to the new variants, whereas people who have natural immunity are more immune to them. I know the data is saying otherwise, but there are many inconsistencies. Many retractions. First of all it was 60% of new cases were among the vaccinated, then it was 40%, and now they're claiming it's like 99%. Plus they're using different testing methods for vaccinated vs unvaccinated people. They'll basically run as many cycles as necessary to say an unvaccinated person has the virus. They also stopped counting vaccinated people who don't have serious symptoms.

So I guess we have a choice. We can believe the people who have constantly lied to us from the very beginning, or a Nobel prize winning virologist who's the top in his field, who has nothing to lose by speaking the truth.

[Diamondback]

YUP YUP ! Exactly what I am hearing from great sources to

For example, Michael Crichton (who graduated Med School with a doctorate but never practiced because writing was more fun and paid better) once observed that you could carry Staphylococcus aureus for a lifetime with the only effect being a few pimples.

I'd go so far as to say the ideal virus mutates to somehow BENEFIT its host and encourage awareness and spread, but stealth is next-best.

[okie]

For example, Michael Crichton (who graduated Med School with a doctorate but never practiced because writing was more fun and paid better) once observed that you could carry Staphylococcus aureus for a lifetime with the only effect being a few pimples.

I'd go so far as to say the ideal virus mutates to somehow BENEFIT its host and encourage awareness and spread, but stealth is next-best.

Yep, there are symbiotic viruses that target bad bacteria in our bodies.

[Averageman]

Well, it doesn't seem to take a lot of in depth thought to understand we're being lied to. That The Big Government, Big Pharma and the MSM are involved in this and are promoting some things and completely overlooking others.
So you're getting the filtered truth, filtered through the Government, Big Pharma and the Media.
I'm Done, I want a shirt that says "No Mask, No Vax, No Problem. I will wear it everywhere.

[chuckman]

That's exactly correct. The ideal virus doesn't want you or anyone else to know it's there. The most successful viruses are the ones that don't cause any symptoms whatsoever. They come and go all the time without anyone noticing. The worst viruses like Ebola and SARS are always unsuccessful because they cause major symptoms and often kill the host, limiting their ability to spread. The deadlier the virus, the lower its R0 value.

Now if COVID is manmade, though, it might be playing by different rules, especially if the vaccines are causing it to mutate in unnatural ways. The virologist who discovered AIDS is arguing that very thing. He claims that COVID is a manmade virus that has gene sequences taken from the AIDS virus. He's certainly one of the few people out there who understands this stuff who's not on someone's payroll. He's retired and has already won the Nobel prize, so he has nothing to lose by speaking the truth.

He's also saying that the vaccine is causing COVID to mutate faster, and that people who are vaccinated are more susceptible to the new variants, whereas people who have natural immunity are more immune to them. I know the data is saying otherwise, but there are many inconsistencies. Many retractions. First of all it was 60% of new cases were among the vaccinated, then it was 40%, and now they're claiming it's like 99%. Plus they're using different testing methods for vaccinated vs unvaccinated people. They'll basically run as many cycles as necessary to say an unvaccinated person has the virus. They also stopped counting vaccinated people who don't have serious symptoms.

So I guess we have a choice. We can believe the people who have constantly lied to us from the very beginning, or a Nobel prize winning virologist who's the top in his field, who has nothing to lose by speaking the truth.

Several viruses mutate into stronger more resistant strains. Also, mortality is just one part of the R value equation (along with transmission rate and host density).