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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    Are you sure that is a federal law, not the carrier's policy?

    18 U.S.C. 1715 states that handguns cannot be mailed through the USPS, so they must be shopped by private common or contract carrier.

    Do you have a source for the 2 days?

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    Yeah, I wrote that in a hurry and it was all effed up. I know that I've used FedEx 2-day just a few years ago but it looks like they and UPS now require overnight.
    Last edited by gunnerblue; 07-30-21 at 17:51.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artos View Post
    I'm an ffl & had all three carriers tell me they do not ship firearms period at one point or another...ignorance is NOT curable.
    Pretty sure that is what you meant. And yeah same experience.

    UPS, FedEx and the rest has a problem with handguns being stolen by employees, rather than address and fix the problem, they simply created in house rules that mandate all handguns MUST ship overnight. This is because overnight shipments have better oversight than ground. It's also an amazing scam to charge gun owners and dealers for the cost of internal theft.

    Most FFLs figured out you can register your FFL with the USPS and then ship handguns flat rate, but for NON FFLs this is still a serious felony.

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    Last edited by SteyrAUG; 07-30-21 at 21:11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crosseyedshooter View Post
    I've had great experience with www.shipmygun.com for shipping to FFLs. They're part of BudsGunShop and use their UPS account to generate shipping labels for you. Then you drop off at a UPS Customer Center (shipping hub, not store). The website checkout process doesn't run correctly with Safari on my Mac, but that may not apply to you.

    You simply choose the type of firearm and package weight, level of insurance, and the receiving FFL. After successful checkout, they will email you a printable shipping label within 24 hours.

    ETA: They also provide you with a letter on UPS letterhead in case you run into any resistance, but I didn't have any trouble the three times I've shipped.

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    Nice that Bud's is trying, but you can also just create your own UPS account, print shipping at home, don't ever mentions firearms and just ship ground and drop off at hub or UPS store. Just don't mention firearms.
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    Good advice SteyrAUG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    In the future just create a FedEx or UPS account and buy your shipping online, print a label and drop off. Nobody needs to know what's inside and if they ask say "machine parts" which is technically true. You aren't breaking any laws by telling UPS or FedEx some BS.

    FedEx office and UPS stores are the worst, they have in house policies that refuse firearm shipments, but F em and they don't need to know what's in the box and if you pack at home they'll never know. They also have the least informed employee's when it comes to actual laws concerning the shipment of firearms and assume it's all illegal.
    ATF website says 18 USC 922 requires you notify the carrier:



    "A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

    In addition, federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm or ammunition, prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm and requires obtaining written acknowledgement of receipt.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a)(5), 922(e) and (f); 27 CFR 478.30 and 478.31]"

    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-...ntract-carrier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubbs103 View Post
    ATF website says 18 USC 922 requires you notify the carrier:



    "A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

    In addition, federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm or ammunition, prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm and requires obtaining written acknowledgement of receipt.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a)(5), 922(e) and (f); 27 CFR 478.30 and 478.31]"

    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-...ntract-carrier
    Wow. That's messed up. Serious overreach and a defacto gun tax.

    So my advice would be, get friendly with your local FFL and have them ship handguns for you using Flat Rate boxes. What a world we live in.
    Last edited by SteyrAUG; 07-30-21 at 21:09.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoni View Post
    3 weeks ago I went into FedEx to ship a pistols, I told them it was a pistol and they charged me $27 for the shipment.

    I went into the same FedEx today and they wanted $126, saying handguns had to be shipped priority overnight.

    I am going to try UPS, next.

    I tried calling UPS customer service and was talking to a call center in Asia by the sound of the accent and then couldn't tell me anything about shipping pistols with UPS.

    Needless to say I am PISSED.
    I've had UPS tell me they have to ship handguns via Next Day Air. The packages are tracked differently than regular UPS Ground. In my experience UPS Next Day Air takes 3 to 4 days.

    UPS started this nonsense when handguns began to disappear from a UPS distribution facility on the east coast. Rather than pushing for spirited prosecution and lengthy prison sentences upon conviction of the offending employees, UPS decided to make it harder for us to ship handguns.
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    Don’t even get me started on dimensional weight! I took the grips off my 44 to ship back to CZ to have it re-timed and all the springs replaced. Then they tell me it doesn’t matter how much I lighten it up, it goes off dimensional weight first and then actual weight. FFL to ship is the cheapest for sure. Just make sure they don’t put your serial number on their books before sending it. It is not a transfer and you don’t want someone accidentally filling out a 4473 on your gun. Had a kid try to put my 2020 Python on his employer’s books while shipping it back to Colt for me to get the 2020 issues removed from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappabear View Post
    I got nuked on primers. One week UPS shipped no problem, next week “no”. Said they completely understood you can ship ammo but not primers. So annoying.

    PB
    I've always thought it silly that I had to pay a hazmat fee on shipped primers but not on shipped primed shotgun hulls (ground anyways)

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post
    I've had UPS tell me they have to ship handguns via Next Day Air. The packages are tracked differently than regular UPS Ground. In my experience UPS Next Day Air takes 3 to 4 days.

    UPS started this nonsense when handguns began to disappear from a UPS distribution facility on the east coast. Rather than pushing for spirited prosecution and lengthy prison sentences upon conviction of the offending employees, UPS decided to make it harder for us to ship handguns.
    If your Next Day Air package takes more than a single business day to arrive, you can call UPS/FedEx and request a refund of your shipping charges. Next Day and 2 Day are guaranteed services.

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