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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    JFK would never get his party's nomination today. Sinema and Manchin (for whatever trust one can have in them) are a dying breed.
    You know, Ive read that a lot about him, and MLK. While it COULD be true, we'll never know...my thoughts are they woulda morphed over the years into the current state of nuttiness right along with the rest of them. Maybe not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Shooter View Post
    You know, Ive read that a lot about him, and MLK. While it COULD be true, we'll never know...my thoughts are they woulda morphed over the years into the current state of nuttiness right along with the rest of them. Maybe not.
    JFK was probably assassinated because he didn't want the country to fall into that nuttiness. The Johnson Administration is where the Democrats began their slide leftward. You can never tell what may or may have happened had JFK never been shot: Would he have won reelection? Would he have gotten us as involved in Vietnam as Johnson did? Would the "War on Poverty" "War on Crime" "War on Drugs" and all the "wars" that Johnson declared have happened, resulting in the inflation of government? If we weren't drafting young kids to go fight a war that nobody understood, would the counterculture have been as big a thing? Would JFK done a better job working to establish civil rights for black people and been more efficient in getting rid of segregation? Communists are always looks to find their army among the disaffected, and they found it in the youth who opposed the Vietnam War and with many in the civil rights movement. Would they have gained the stranglehold on academia and entertainment the way they did if they didn't have the angry youthful ear?

    There is so much that could have been different had it not been for the death of JFK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    JFK was probably assassinated because he didn't want the country to fall into that nuttiness. The Johnson Administration is where the Democrats began their slide leftward. You can never tell what may or may have happened had JFK never been shot: Would he have won reelection? Would he have gotten us as involved in Vietnam as Johnson did? Would the "War on Poverty" "War on Crime" "War on Drugs" and all the "wars" that Johnson declared have happened, resulting in the inflation of government? If we weren't drafting young kids to go fight a war that nobody understood, would the counterculture have been as big a thing? Would JFK done a better job working to establish civil rights for black people and been more efficient in getting rid of segregation? Communists are always looks to find their army among the disaffected, and they found it in the youth who opposed the Vietnam War and with many in the civil rights movement. Would they have gained the stranglehold on academia and entertainment the way they did if they didn't have the angry youthful ear?

    There is so much that could have been different had it not been for the death of JFK.
    Interesting musings. It's interesting to note that the Russian KGB's best assessment, done at a time of "oh crap they're gonna blame US and start WWIII how do we prove SODDI?" was that Johnson was the prime mover. I think Mitrokhin noted that in one of his books, if memory serves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    It's called Jockeying for Position. As the rest of her party's Old Guard runs Far Left and makes themselves radioactive, she's gonna saw the branch off behind them and rebuild the party in her own image before beginning the Long March again.

    Same deal as Gabbard, it's just for show; throwing the previous generation of leaders under the bus to look "not so bad, even reasonable" is one of the oldest tricks in the Marxist book. See also Khrushchev denouncing Stalin...

    Make no mistake, she has a Long Knife, it is VERY sharp and she has full intention of planting it to-the-hilt in somebody's back. The question is whose and when.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Seriously let me ask you: was Twatlery, and then Xiden a better choice?
    As much as I understand that Trump was a born again conservative who until very recently was a NY liberal liberal land developer and sometime reality show tv host who had the Clintons at his wedding...the above isn't even an honest question.

    While all politicians are there to gain power, wealth and influence (nobody spends MILLIONS getting elected if they don't think they will get a return on that investment) the notion that Trump is equally as bad as Hillary or Biden is truly batshit insane or somebody just isn't paying very close attention.

    Had Trump simply had a team manage his Twitter page, he might have gotten reelected. Trump lost the election because he had to put his opinion on the internet, and even though Twitter isn't policy, he polarized himself too much and got played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    who until very recently was a NY liberal liberal land developer and sometime reality show tv host who had the Clintons at his wedding...the above isn't even an honest question.
    I disagree with this narrative. Trump was more conservative in most things than Ron...........He even addressed this when questioned. It was part of NY politics to support a broad spectrum of political ideas. I don't think that means he suddenly converted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HKGuns View Post
    I disagree with this narrative. Trump was more conservative in most things than Ron...........He even addressed this when questioned. It was part of NY politics to support a broad spectrum of political ideas. I don't think that means he suddenly converted.
    Why did you gloss over born again conservative? And recently converted is better than never converted.
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    They're running crazy campaign ads trying to pressure her to support/secure their fraudulent voting games. Of course it's spun as protecting voter rights. Absolute insanity the f$%king propaganda that spins almost everything for the exact opposite of the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    As much as I understand that Trump was a born again conservative who until very recently was a NY liberal liberal land developer and sometime reality show tv host who had the Clintons at his wedding...the above isn't even an honest question.

    While all politicians are there to gain power, wealth and influence (nobody spends MILLIONS getting elected if they don't think they will get a return on that investment) the notion that Trump is equally as bad as Hillary or Biden is truly batshit insane or somebody just isn't paying very close attention.

    Had Trump simply had a team manage his Twitter page, he might have gotten reelected. Trump lost the election because he had to put his opinion on the internet, and even though Twitter isn't policy, he polarized himself too much and got played.
    Well that and the whole cheating (i.e. FRAUD) thing. But yeah, he had piss-poor management of his own administration. Being an "outsider", he relied too heavily on the suggestions of other swampy critters for positions he filled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    After her election, she joined the New Democrat Coalition, the Blue Dog Coalition and the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus, amassing one of the most conservative voting records in the Democratic caucus.

    Source: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...le/1572194002/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    JFK would never get his party's nomination today. Sinema and Manchin (for whatever trust one can have in them) are a dying breed.
    He did support mass immigration, wrote a book for the ADL to justify it called "A Nation of Immigrants", that allow shows you JFKs real nature. Those two only exist as long as they can not be bribed by their own party, they are never to be trusted and are to be removed at the first possible chance.

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