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    Glock went through this nonsense too.

    Here's a good YT link for mechanical information on SIGs, including the P320: https://www.youtube.com/@SIGMECHANICS
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    Quote Originally Posted by titsonritz View Post
    … unintentional firings by its model P320 pistols.

    … are calling for it to make critical safety design improvements.
    “Unintentional firings” is a very specific wording that very carefully avoids claiming any mechanical failure, while still allowing that assumption by most who hear it. So we won’t get any attempt to show an actual mechanical failure, because nobody has ever reproduced one.

    What specific safety designs have they identified? Because a closer reading makes it sound like they are saying the trigger is too light for a gun without a manual safety, but Sig makes manual safety models.

    So it seems to me like whoever bought the non manual safety model gun should be the target of this lawsuit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-grunt View Post
    I was just talking about this again in another forum.

    2. The military M17 and M18 are not experiencing this issue. Those models have a manual safety. The manual safety is a trigger bar block. All it does is prevent the trigger from being pulled. The M17 and M18 and the manual safety P320 should also be experiencing these issues if it is a failure of the sear and striker. I havent heard of any reports of these issues from the military. Having been both a Soldier and a cop I can tell you that the average M17 carried in the field by a Soldier will experience FAR more shock and vibration than the average P320 in a cops duty holster.
    This. I'm admittedly a Sig fan but if there was a true issue I'd think the military would have found it
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBAR_94 View Post
    This. I'm admittedly a Sig fan but if there was a true issue I'd think the military would have found it
    Not as apples:apples as most think. Posted earlier in the thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by ST911 View Post
    We lack details in what's reported by media, and lack everything in those incidents handled between citizen/officer/agency and the manufacturer directly. M17/M18 and contract guns are built and accountable to spec(s), 320s in your big-box and LGS are built to whatever. Most common problem with mil M17/M18 seems to be loose/lost rear sights.
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    I have a 320 but replaced the stock trigger with an Agency Arms one. Similar to the Glock triggers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voodoochild View Post
    I have a 320 but replaced the stock trigger with an Agency Arms one. Similar to the Glock triggers.
    What's your take on that trigger? How does it compare to the stock trigger, and to a Glock trigger?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    “Unintentional firings” is a very specific wording that very carefully avoids claiming any mechanical failure, while still allowing that assumption by most who hear it. So we won’t get any attempt to show an actual mechanical failure, because nobody has ever reproduced one.

    What specific safety designs have they identified? Because a closer reading makes it sound like they are saying the trigger is too light for a gun without a manual safety, but Sig makes manual safety models.

    So it seems to me like whoever bought the non manual safety model gun should be the target of this lawsuit.

    There is also a lot of talk about holster designs for light bearing P320s as well. This situation has gone on for such a long time without any sort of conclusions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgeib View Post
    What's your take on that trigger? How does it compare to the stock trigger, and to a Glock trigger?
    Pretty much identical to a Glock Trigger (better than the stock one). I like it better than the stock SIG trigger. I shoot both Glock and the 320 a lot so muscle memory is identical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voodoochild View Post
    Pretty much identical to a Glock Trigger (better than the stock one). I like it better than the stock SIG trigger. I shoot both Glock and the 320 a lot so muscle memory is identical.
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBAR_94 View Post
    This. I'm admittedly a Sig fan but if there was a true issue I'd think the military would have found it
    There are very very few people in the military that carry a pistol full time and even fewer yet that carry (condition 1) round in chamber.

    Edit to add: And the guys that do are carrying Glock.
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