New Colt CR6960

[DG23]

Colt has always outsourced parts.

'Some' parts - And those parts were tested to make sure they met the standards and marked as such.

[JediGuy]

Aaaand here we go again.

My random (OK, it’s a LMT MARS-L) lower and 6960 is my favorite carbine. I like my SBR uppers a ton, but I grab something these days, it has been the 6960.

In other words…. You’ll probably be fine.

[C-grunt]

I'll wait until there is actual proof that parts are sub standard. Colt has changed markings several times over the years. I'm not gonna get all up in arms because some guy who got fired from Colt decides to make a video that parts aren't marked the same as when he worked there years prior.

[Uncas47]

I wouldn't hesitate to buy a new Colt, run it hard, get it filthy, and run it hard some more. I couldn't care less what anyone thinks.

[17K]

I don’t know if we’re watching the same video or not, but I clearly saw differences between the two. Pretty clear that parts were being outsourced. Now I don’t know if that means anything or not.

Differences and inconsistencies is what Colt does. They’ve never always done anything for long when it comes to markings.

What they always do: Proper barrels that run like a raped ape with any ammo and aren’t overgassed and don’t pop primers and beat up brass. BCGs that are among the best.

The entire rest of the gun is just AR parts.

[grizzman]

Bet you money he gave that reply because he recently bought one and is butthurt that someone like Chris pointed out how bad he got ripped off.

I would not touch a recent Colt product with a ten foot pole. An older model Colt? Heck yes, but hard pass on this new stuff.

If you’re referring to me, your ASSumption is incorrect. I only buy Colts when they’re ridiculously inexpensive, and haven’t bought one in 3 years.

I don’t recall seeing anyone suggest you buy one, so feel free to shop elsewhere. I have no plans to buy any more. Colts, but that’s not because of a video posted by an ex employee, or a change in component markings.

Olympus, you can always take the easy route and buy a DD.

[VIP3R 237]

I love my CR6960. It’s gassed correctly and I went through a class with no issues at all, it’s honestly one of the better buys on the market right now.

I have zero evidence that the ‘new colt’ is any less quality than the previous models.

[17K]

Bet you money he gave that reply because he recently bought one and is butthurt that someone like Chris pointed out how bad he got ripped off.

I would not touch a recent Colt product with a ten foot pole. An older model Colt? Heck yes, but hard pass on this new stuff.

The only Colt things I own are OEM-2 uppers that I used to build on.

New Colts are better than old Colts, old Colts were better than what was available at the time.

I wouldn’t touch an old Colt.

[SteyrAUG]

The only Colt things I own are OEM-2 uppers that I used to build on.

New Colts are better than old Colts, old Colts were better than what was available at the time.

I wouldn’t touch an old Colt.

More for me, thank you.

I've got some seriously old Colts, some older than me and funny thing is they run just fine.

But sounds like TDP is what everyone is wanting to talk about and in the context of did any of that change.

Answer right now seems to be "We don't know." So really the only "known quantity" Colts are those made by Colt Defense and those were only a known quantity for a little over 10 years. Are the LE6920s that were made by Colt Manufacturing also made to the exact same TDP...probably but that is nothing more than speculation from me as I have no supported evidence either way.

Are the CR6920s the same as the LE6920s, again probably but again just speculation from me.

Are the CR6960s essentially an equivalent rifle with design changes only? Who knows? Until somebody gets ahold of the TDP for that rifle and generates Chart 2.0 we aren't going to know for sure and speculating back and forth is nothing more than unsupported speculation.

Add in the usual arguments of "I'm not going to pay an extra $200 just so the barrel under the front sight gets parkerized" and we are off.

What separates this forum from pretty much every other forum on the net, has been in the past, discussing known quantities. We know for example Colt Retro Rifles are nothing more than hobby rifles with interesting roll marks. And if that is what you want to own and you purchased it as an informed decision that is fine.

I have more than a few hobby rifles, these include an XCR which is incredibly interesting but completely unproven in any meaningful way and also falls well short of most performance expectations, especially accuracy. But it's still an interesting rifle and I have a sample of one that I will keep because it would be hard to sell. It resides in my interesting / hobby rifle safe.

My Colt Defense rifles are in my "Hollee Crap I need a rifle that is a very known quantity" safe with some HKs and a few others.

It remains to be seen if I would even purchase a CR rifle and then which safe it would go in. Say what you will about the Yellow Visor guy, but it seems his writing gig gave him access to data which usually doesn't makes it's way into "Awesome guns for awesome guys monthly" and he did a simple 1:1 comparison of what rifles had this and what rifles had that...or didn't.

[El Vaquero]

I'll wait until there is actual proof that parts are sub standard. Colt has changed markings several times over the years. I'm not gonna get all up in arms because some guy who got fired from Colt decides to make a video that parts aren't marked the same as when he worked there years prior.

My feelings as well. I have yet to hear about an unusually high amount of parts breakages or issues.