HD AR in condition 1

[Disciple]

I just read through twenty pages of an old thread where this question was raised at least twice but people were too busy arguing about the wisdom of clearing one's own home to answer it. I am sure this has been discussed ad nauseum somewhere but I can't find it.

It seems the majority of those who have an AR for home defense keep it chamber empty. Aside from living with children why is condition 1 (loaded chamber, safety on) not more common?

[titsonritz]

Off the top of my head...

1. AR's are not drop safe.
2. Repeated chambering of a round will over seat the bullet.
3. Pets

[Diamondback]

I just read through twenty pages of an old thread where this question was raised at least twice but people were too busy arguing about the wisdom of clearing one's own home to answer it. I am sure this has been discussed ad nauseum somewhere but I can't find it.

It seems the majority of those who have an AR for home defense keep it chamber empty. Aside from living with children why is condition 1 (loaded chamber, safety on) not more common?

Speaking for myself, where it's just me and an ill-tempered disgracefully aging parent needing live-in care, flicking a selector is fine motor, doing Grip It N Rip It with a Rapid Rack is gross-motor muscle movement. I have more confidence in my ability to do the latter under the initial hit of an adrenaline dump than I do the former. Others' individual kinesthetics may and probably will vary.

[Circle_10]

I think for me the main reason may be that I’m always dicking around with my ARs, even my “primary” AR that generally resides in a wall rack next to the bed. So while I always “clear” the gun regardless before I mess with it, I don’t want to constantly be taking a live round out of the chamber and rotating the rounds in the mag to avoid rechambering the same round multiple times.
I don’t run into this issue with my carry handgun, as I don’t tend to monkey around with it.

[Defaultmp3]

Speaking for myself, where it's just me and an ill-tempered disgracefully aging parent needing live-in care, flicking a selector is fine motor, doing Grip It N Rip It with a Rapid Rack is gross-motor muscle movement. I have more confidence in my ability to do the latter under the initial hit of an adrenaline dump than I do the former. Others' individual kinesthetics may and probably will vary.

Just a quick heads up, both of those actions require fine motor skills; the whole gross/fine motor skill thing is terribly misused by the tactical training industry.

Anything that requires the use of your fingers is going to require fine motor skills, so the act of gripping the AR and hanging on to the charging handle are both actions that require fine motor skills, even if one could argue that it utilizes much less dexterity compared to hitting a safety selector.

[Dutch110]

Because racking the charging handle assures me of the condition of the rifle. I too dick around with mine on a regular basis. Dry fire practice etc etc.

[Diamondback]

Just a quick heads up, both of those actions require fine motor skills; the whole gross/fine motor skill thing is terribly misused by the tactical training industry.

Anything that requires the use of your fingers is going to require fine motor skills, so the act of gripping the AR and hanging on to the charging handle are both actions that require fine motor skills, even if one could argue that it utilizes much less dexterity compared to hitting a safety selector.

I don't use the CH for Bump in the Night, I use a chamber block that has a huge handle sticking out the ejection port--basically turns it into a one-time side charger like an AK. Point taken, but either way we're talking "minimize the DEX Roll required."

Technically I don't even grab, just slap the handle free with my right palm since I'm left-handed. This may not work as well for all of y'all Not In Your Right Minds...

[Stickman]

Less holes in the walls....

[Alex V]

How hard do you have to drop the rifle muzzle down for the firing pin to achieve enough momentum in the fraction of an inch it can travel to set off a primer?

Im on board with the others here. I mess with the gun too much to constantly be putting the round back in the mag etc.

Mag in, bolt forward on an empty chamber, safety on

[Alex V]

I don't use the CH for Bump in the Night, I use a chamber block that has a huge handle sticking out the ejection port--basically turns it into a one-time side charger like an AK. Point taken, but either way we're talking "minimize the DEX Roll required."

Technically I don't even grab, just slap the handle free with my right palm since I'm left-handed. This may not work as well for all of y'all Not In Your Right Minds...

how is this faster or really all that different than pulling a changing handle? Seems like the same amount of effort but an action that would never be used after the initial time?