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    WML and laser all in one, both white light and IR.

    I am looking for a small compact package to go on a shotgun. The problem is I want white light and visible laser for in the house at night for HD, and a IR laser and IR light for outside at night for the critters, coyotes, and pigs.
    Is there a fairly compact package that’s an all in one unit? If so I’m unaware of it and did not find it while searching Google.

    If nothing exist like that, then second choice would be white light with IR light and Ir laser.
    Third choice would be a single unit containing a white light and IR laser.
    Last edited by ace4059; 08-24-21 at 22:33.
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    In 2014, a RDS and a WML are pretty much mandatory for a defensive long-gun.

    Lights are way easier to fire up than NODs when rolling out of bed.

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    The L-3 MIPIM (AN/PEQ-16B) would be the most obvious military solution, but that's probably larger than you want, and not exactly easy to source. The Steiner DBAL-A4 would be much easier to find, but still on the larger side. Same with the Holosun 420 series. ZenitCo Perst-2 could be imported, if you really after that full-power output.

    For smaller options oriented for pistol use, there is the Steiner DBAL-RL/DBAL-PL and the SureFire XLV2.

    For white light, IR illum, and IR laser, there is the SureFire X400V or X400VH, or the Streamlight VIR II. The LaserMax entry to PAiL, the LMD is also around, though the consensus is that it's garbage. Kick it old school, and you could also look for the Insight LAM systems AKA the AN/PEQ-6 and AN/PEQ-14.
    Last edited by Defaultmp3; 08-24-21 at 23:16.
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    Seems like a full power laser would be Overkill for a shotgun.

    I think the holosun le420 is probably your best bet.

    https://holosun.com/index/product/detail/id/178.html

    Or maybe the dbal rl, which actually mentions shotguns in the ad. https://www.steiner-defense.com/laser-devices/dbal-rl


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    no practical experience with shotguns, but i've been using the streamlight VIR II on a 9mm sub-gun wannabe for a while and love it.
    I'm currently in the market for the same capabilities for an AR, which basically means i want to take the white light intensity to the next level, and longer battery life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taliv View Post
    no practical experience with shotguns, but i've been using the streamlight VIR II on a 9mm sub-gun wannabe for a while and love it.
    I'm currently in the market for the same capabilities for an AR, which basically means i want to take the white light intensity to the next level, and longer battery life.
    If you don't need a visible laser, check out phantom Hill.

    They have a new laser coming to market that's kind of like a TLR-Vir2 on steroids built for rifles.

    I didn't mention it before since the OP asked for a visible laser.


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    The problem I see with these type of units is the white light is weak compared to most options these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by titsonritz View Post
    The problem I see with these type of units is the white light is weak compared to most options these days.
    One cool thing about the Phantom Hill design is the light module is serviceable and upgradable in the future.

    I wish they just used surefire heads or modlight heads. Kind of like what Wilcox did with the Raptar Lite.


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