Is anyone else starting to get a Jonestown vibe?

[okie]

I'm not even kidding. I feel like we've arrived at that stage where the half who drank the koolaid are trying to force the other half to drink it, too.

But seriously, am I really the only one who's starting to get super creeped out by these people? The worst part is I can't even talk about this with family or friends for fear they'll be like:


And that's what I find so creepy about all this is how insistent not only the government is getting, but how incredulous people are at the mere thought that maybe someone would choose not to get it.

It just feels more and more like this has nothing to do with anything besides compliance for its own sake. Just going from the official numbers and information coming from the CDC and foreign health departments, I feel like there's a lot of room in all this for debate and personal choice. Like this is fifty thousand shades of gray. Just going from the official narrative it seems there's less legitimate reason to get it, and more legitimate reasons not to get it, than the seasonal flu vaccine. At least we're pretty sure the flu vaccine works and isn't hurting people, vs. this thing, all the conspiracy junk aside, that feels like playing Russian roulette. Just seems like it's failed even in places where it was given the best possible chance of success, and on top of that it seems there are way more than enough reasons now to be overly cautious when it comes to assessing its safety, if for no other reason than the fact it was rushed to market and has zero track record.

[rero360]

You are not the only one, I feel like I’m in bizarro world where things that I know that are objectively true are being called false by a large number of people.

I used to think my dad was a very intelligent and open minded person capable of serious critical thinking but I mentioned some time ago to him about how everything was going down the toilet and how I wished we still had the economy under Trump just before Covid hit, and he blew up on me and said to never mention that name again. Totally boggled my mind. Here I am, months after graduating with a ME degree, having applied to probably around a hundred jobs so far and still nothing, yet I know if I had graduated a year earlier I would have had a job lined up before graduation.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

We seem to be a nation full of virtue signalers, oppositional defiant disorder celebrators, or completely checked out and not engaged at all.

[Straight Shooter]

You are not the only one, I feel like I’m in bizarro world where things that I know that are objectively true are being called false by a large number of people.

I used to think my dad was a very intelligent and open minded person capable of serious critical thinking but I mentioned some time ago to him about how everything was going down the toilet and how I wished we still had the economy under Trump just before Covid hit, and he blew up on me and said to never mention that name again. Totally boggled my mind. Here I am, months after graduating with a ME degree, having applied to probably around a hundred jobs so far and still nothing, yet I know if I had graduated a year earlier I would have had a job lined up before graduation.

Brother- Ill politely say, if cant cant get a job with an ME degree...you either aint tryin, or you need to get out of whatever one horse town youre in.
Man, degree'd positions are EVERYWHERE.
As to the OP's question: Youre about 20-25 years behind.

[Diamondback]

Been sayin' the same thing ever since "Night of the Living Braindead" in Nov 2008...

[czgunner]

I'm with you OP. I struggle with the amount of people on "the right" that are frothing at the mouth defending this nonsense. This is why I left WA state for WY. People are sucked in by fear and its a very powerful motivator. I question why people are suddenly so scared. We all know we will die someday. It just won't be from this stupid thing! LOL.

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[okie]

You are not the only one, I feel like I’m in bizarro world where things that I know that are objectively true are being called false by a large number of people.

I used to think my dad was a very intelligent and open minded person capable of serious critical thinking but I mentioned some time ago to him about how everything was going down the toilet and how I wished we still had the economy under Trump just before Covid hit, and he blew up on me and said to never mention that name again. Totally boggled my mind. Here I am, months after graduating with a ME degree, having applied to probably around a hundred jobs so far and still nothing, yet I know if I had graduated a year earlier I would have had a job lined up before graduation.

The government is lying about job openings. They get that data by just pulling from the jobs posting sites, so if the same job gets posted to all three major sites it gets counted three times. And on top of that, lots of those jobs posted aren't even really that serious. They're just seeing what's out there. It's kind of like how your girlfriend has that secret Tinder account where she's just looking for that next best thing, but she's already got you really well trained so anyone less than prince charming himself probably isn't going to motivate her to leave you, and prince charming can do way better and she knows it so he's not going to apply, but nevertheless she's going to have some B team dudes waiting in the wings as backup for when you inevitably get tired of her bullshit and dump her ass. Like she might even interview some of them behind your back and give them every indication there's a position to fill, for which they're in the running, but she knows she's just playing with them as long as you're around and willing to pander to her.

And of the jobs that are actually available in a non hypothetical sense, the employers want to take them overseas. They just post them for appearances to make it seem like maybe they kind of want to hire an American sort of. Like if the job description is bending over backwards and Gumby applies he might get it, if HR will sign off on it.

But yea, if you look at the labor participation rate those numbers are far more honest. If you break it down into age groups, the only jobs that actually recovered are the entry level minimum wage jobs in the services industry. Hardly anyone is hiring skilled and white collar right now.

Best of luck to you, man, I hope you find something soon. I'm in no way trying to discourage you. Quite the opposite actually. More like just want to tell you the truth so you don't have any delusions like pretty much everyone else your age. They all think there are all these jobs out there and that they are the actual shit itself, like employers are just going to come running to them begging them to work for a salary ten years ahead of their tenure. Hopefully when all these morons walk off their jobs for the great resignation this fall you'll be able to get one of them.

[okie]

Brother- Ill politely say, if cant cant get a job with an ME degree...you either aint tryin, or you need to get out of whatever one horse town youre in.
Man, degree'd positions are EVERYWHERE.
As to the OP's question: Youre about 20-25 years behind.

He's not the first I've heard of. Not by a long shot.

[DG23]

Brother- Ill politely say, if cant cant get a job with an ME degree...you either aint tryin, or you need to get out of whatever one horse town youre in.
Man, degree'd positions are EVERYWHERE.
As to the OP's question: Youre about 20-25 years behind.

A degree alone does not equal EXPERIENCE.

My son is figuring that out currently with his degree. His douchebag mom (and the school) brainwashed him into thinking he would instantly have a 200k per year job as soon as he graduated and uhh, No.

Tried to tell him several times that is not the way it works and he would just get angry with me. Now that he is experiencing exactly what I warned him about WHILE he gets to pay back all those student loans and he is starting to come to believe the same thing I have said about his mom for years. (that she is an idiot)

[markm]

I'm not even kidding. I feel like we've arrived at that stage where the half who drank the koolaid are trying to force the other half to drink it, too.

If the vaccine worked, why would they care? They're safe right? Obviously we can see the vaccine does not work.... so WHY double down on it?