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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    Then the XM8 got cancelled and the M4 got tweaked, improved, and upgraded, and suddenly it was an excellent rifle and a lot of the original complaints about it were solved.
    I should not be ignorant of this. What were these changes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple View Post
    I should not be ignorant of this. What were these changes?
    One of the major issues that Chris at Small Arms Solutions (and the latest volume of Black Rifles) outlines was improved QC. Simply put, barrel nut torque, subcomponent assembly, and extraction was all over the place. Minor improvements to those areas and better magazines helped solve most of these issues. Some rifles were being rebuilt with completely out-of-spec spare parts.
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    My biggest issue with my 17 is it’s accuracy. 3 MOA at best with excellent hand loads.

    The charging handle didn’t bother me much until it nearly took my thumb off one day.

    Not sure I’d pay $500 for a kit, but would at least consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKGuns View Post
    My biggest issue with my 17 is it’s accuracy. 3 MOA at best with excellent hand loads.

    The charging handle didn’t bother me much until it nearly took my thumb off one day.

    Not sure I’d pay $500 for a kit, but would at least consider.
    That is interesting. The 17s has a rep of being accurate.

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    My 17 was 1.5 moa all day. Had a few .88 but those were rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themonk View Post
    My 17 was 1.5 moa all day. Had a few .88 but those were rare.
    None of mine, sample of 4, were better than 3.
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    Interesting, I've owned three. They are/were all exactly as the Monk states. They will occasionally print sub-MOA but will reliably print 1.5 or below with commercial ammo like GMM. I will say one thing the SCAR really benefits from is the Geisslie Trigger. The factory trigger is 80s style poop and was difficult for me to master. Accuracy has been a real sweet spot with the SCARs that I have owned and those owned by my shooting buddies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Bell View Post
    Interesting, I've owned three. They are/were all exactly as the Monk states. They will occasionally print sub-MOA but will reliably print 1.5 or below with commercial ammo like GMM. I will say one thing the SCAR really benefits from is the Geisslie Trigger. The factory trigger is 80s style poop and was difficult for me to master. Accuracy has been a real sweet spot with the SCARs that I have owned and those owned by my shooting buddies.
    All my triggers were stock. I shouldn't have to drop in custom triggers to get performance from a rifle that was promoted as "one to rule them all."

    I could probably do 2 MOA if I bolted the rifle to a shooting bench, but that doesn't really make it a 2 MOA rifle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Bell View Post
    Interesting, I've owned three. They are/were all exactly as the Monk states. They will occasionally print sub-MOA but will reliably print 1.5 or below with commercial ammo like GMM. I will say one thing the SCAR really benefits from is the Geisslie Trigger. The factory trigger is 80s style poop and was difficult for me to master. Accuracy has been a real sweet spot with the SCARs that I have owned and those owned by my shooting buddies.
    My sample is only one and agree vehemently about the trigger, that was the first thing I changed on my rifle, so mine has the G-Trigger installed. I think the only stock trigger worse was my Tavor, which also got a G-Trigger pack.

    (This is coming from someone who can tolerate an HK91 trigger just fine.)
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    9 Hole Reviews shot a 0.9MOA group with FGMM175gr. I get about 1 MOA ish plus with my SCAR17. The system is decently accurate with good ammo. With M80 Ball I'll get 6" spreads.
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