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THCDDM4
Lots of ways to not get pregnant that are reasonable and don’t end with scraping an aborted fetus out of a woman.
Education and responsibility/accountability are key.
The problem of course is that most people who get abortions are neither accountable, responsible or even terribly educated. If they were any of those things accidental pregnancies would be incredibly rare.
I wish "planned parenthood" was actually what it claims to be and devoted most of it's time to preventing unwanted pregnancies. I mean it does that to an extent but obviously not in a way that is meaningful enough to make abortions an extremely rare thing.
I think anyone who is receiving government support in the form of welfare, EBT, etc. should be required to be on Norplant as a condition of continued support. It's neither permanent nor excessively invasive. That would solve a LOT of problems.
Other people who have demonstrated gross irresponsibility such as those in substance treatment should also be on Norplant. I don't think the added stress of having a newborn is going to help them with their addiction problems. It could be a condition of their insurance coverage and again, it's completely reversible.
Sure people will cry "eugenics" but applying for welfare is voluntary. Accessing insurance provided substance treatment is voluntary. The tricky one is the mentally ill, technically they haven't done anything wrong and are simply mentally ill. I'd be hard pressed to come up with legit reasons to deny them reproductive rights and then you have the challenge of level of mentally ill which range from mild and manageable PTSD all the way to severe cognitive impairment. But for those who can no longer manage their own lives responsibly, I don't think becoming a parent or having to get an abortion is going to improve anything in any way, shape or form.
My large concern is the ability of the US government to oversee or manage such things in a responsible, fair and impartial way. They are far more likely to create a problem of increased pregnancies among these individuals so they can expand their budget to manage the "crisis." Reproductive management would probably simply become another cash cow like Social Security, Medicare and Obamacare where the government pays itself to administer care to those who can't figure it out on their own.
And this is before you add all the related stupidity that comes with the complete package of reproductive rights, religious views, welfare funded families and some truly insane people who I think get pregnant on purpose sometimes simply so they can exercise their right to an abortion. Sounds insane I know but I think I've met a couple of them.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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