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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    That was one of my first thoughts- this would weaponize the red flag laws. IS that civil or Crim?

    Frankly, it would be interesting for NY or CA to try it. Frankly, even if limited to a AWB gun set, it might force SCOTUS to finally sanctify AW possession.
    I’d assume red flag was civil because no law was broken.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    You know;
    I've been single for a while,
    I'm 60 now, but when I was 56, I knocked up a 44 year old woman, who had assured me that she could not get pregnant.
    Your mind goes some strange places and you might do the math and decide to pull that trigger.
    You know, I hate to say it, but I am awfully glad she miscarried.
    And that's just the truth about that.
    The Texas law affects surgical abortion, not drug initiated abortion. There is no medical need for surgical abortions.

    Planned Parenthood and the other abortion companies are whipping up their minions to protect their business model of 2nd/3rd trimester surgical abortion to re-sell fetus tissue for profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    The Texas law affects surgical abortion, not drug initiated abortion. There is no medical need for surgical abortions.

    Planned Parenthood and the other abortion companies are whipping up their minions to protect their business model of 2nd/3rd trimester surgical abortion to re-sell fetus tissue for profit.

    Andy
    That wasn't my point Andy, what I was trying to say is never say never.
    I dont care if it is chemical or surgical, sometimes your left with a tough choice either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    That wasn't my point Andy, what I was trying to say is never say never.
    I dont care if it is chemical or surgical, sometimes your left with a tough choice either way.
    I understood your point and just meant to say there is still an option. Then I went down a rant rabbit hole.

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    I could have a little more respect for them if they could just call it what it is, homicide. There are legal forms of homicide as some of us can attest, but its evident who the real baby killers are and its not the military.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    I could have a little more respect for them if they could just call it what it is, homicide. There are legal forms of homicide as some of us can attest, but its evident who the real baby killers are and its not the military.
    Do you consider a fertilized egg to be a baby?

    I think the problem most of us have is late term abortions for obvious reasons. That and lazy, irresponsible people who use abortion as a method of birth control rather than using any of the many, many options that prevent pregnancy in the first place.

    Abortions should be very special circumstance procedures, such as when the pregnancy risks the life of the mother, the presence of very serious birth defects and things like that. But somebody who is just going "ooopsie I got knocked up again" and then waits and waits to address it, it becomes more and more of a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Abortions should be very special circumstance procedures, such as when the pregnancy risks the life of the mother, the presence of very serious birth defects and things like that. But somebody who is just going "ooopsie I got knocked up again" and then waits and waits to address it, it becomes more and more of a problem.
    I can agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Do you consider a fertilized egg to be a baby?

    I think the problem most of us have is late term abortions for obvious reasons. That and lazy, irresponsible people who use abortion as a method of birth control rather than using any of the many, many options that prevent pregnancy in the first place.

    Abortions should be very special circumstance procedures, such as when the pregnancy risks the life of the mother, the presence of very serious birth defects and things like that. But somebody who is just going "ooopsie I got knocked up again" and then waits and waits to address it, it becomes more and more of a problem.
    A fertilized egg is a new human being, and yes, I would call it a baby.

    There is never a good reason to unjustly take the life of a human being. Both of you were that fertilized egg once. If we start rationalizing our decision...well in these circumstances it's ok. in these it's not ok, we've essential decided we're God. The human heart is a very dark place. You either respect and count that life precious or you start looking for ways to sooth your seared conscience with lies.

    The darkness of the human heart....https://protestia.com/2021/09/06/sat...law-seriously/
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    Well I hear you can make a condom out of epoxy, so there's always that.

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