Writing Off California COMPLETELY...

[Bulletdog]

This is why, for the still conservative controlled states, in order to protect themselves, need to establish an electoral college at the state level using counties.

If we voted by county CA would be about 90% red.

[Diamondback]

If we voted by county CA would be about 90% red.

That's the way most Blue States are... a sea of red with a handful of intensely overpopulated blue tumors that cancel the rest out.

Even when you drill down farther, to the precinct level, you see the same pattern... a big chunk of those blue counties have most of their square-mileage in red precincts.

[HKGuns]

That's the way most Blue States are... a sea of red with a handful of intensely overpopulated blue tumors that cancel the rest out.

I submit that these Blue Tumors are 65% fraud everywhere. There is no way the vote turnouts are as high as these areas typically produce.

[Adrenaline_6]

Nah, there needs to be a confederation of states that joint together and just say “no”. They need to nullify the 16th amendment. It’s insanity that states’ citizens pay taxes to the federal government just so the government can eat up half in administration cost just to “grant” it back to the states if they behave the way the Feds want them to. We need to move back to a Federal system with separation of powers, if it takes a war between the states, a war with the Feds or a war amongst the people. Something had to give.


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Baby steps. If we get an EC at the state level, everything else could be fixed after that.

[Honu]

I hope our country fails insane huge OR we pendulum swing and bring it back to freedom !
if it fails we can rebuild cause I do not think the wheeny lefties are going to come out on top ? if they do well they won and can create their ultimate socialist communist society and they will pay the price anyway

never lived in Cali never wanted to could care less those cali natives take it back or realize you lost it !

either way california let itself get taken over so boo hoo I say that for any place ! I lived on Maui without caring as nobody cared how left it was only those involved it did not matter to us hunting every day and fishing every day living on the beach freaking great life ? might be dif now ? the idiocy of lockdown and what they are doing is going to destroy the islands of course
Madeira is looking pretty good ! heck mainland of Portugal is looking pretty good ! I was going to Vanuatu but that changed maybe will go there for dif reasons now
get a nice sailboat and avoid sail around the med or south pacific

even folks here on this forum are fake ! they are to into their football as they watch them take a knee stand on our flag hate this country whine about how bad they have it as colored folks making millions and you are racist but the excuses here is I love my football I don't care what they do/say ? folks are to comfy still they just care about what's streaming on netflix then saying they hate obama and biden and then watch football and whine more and do NOTHING OH they do post they got the new iPhone 13 then whine about privacy from their FB page using Gmail and so on

its funny and I dare say its going to happen unless we truly stand up

when I was working in Honduras our police chief got out of hand he ended up in cubes ! remember politicians being killed etc
pretty insane stuff and violence but also things happen when folks are bad they are found or never found but they will never do that again as they are dead nobody is going to go that far and stop this idiocy for a long freaking time
not sure I want to live like that and drop down that far as Honduras ? its tiring but the way we are going its game over for our freedom but people do stupid stuff they pay the price but they went to far to the other side of criminal they are like us but opposite

Italy has some serious stupidity but its been through a lot and has had many ups downs still a place many want to visit and yet many love living their ?
I love our country but not what it has become and cant stand the political climate (either side) so what now ? funny I see poland as a OK place

the jews that left Germany did not bail they saw the writing and saved themselves
the ones that had this OH its OK they won't do that to us did not end up so well
the few that fought from inside were to tiny to make much a dent but props to them !

I can say the rest of the world is not all stupid and the way our country is going with taxes and control we are heading off the deep end

[Grendelshooter]

People still think voting matters?
Quaint.

[Grendelshooter]

I hope our country fails insane huge OR we pendulum swing and bring it back to freedom !
if it fails we can rebuild cause I do not think the wheeny lefties are going to come out on top ? if they do well they won and can create their ultimate socialist communist society and they will pay the price anyway

never lived in Cali never wanted to could care less those cali natives take it back or realize you lost it !

either way california let itself get taken over so boo hoo I say that for any place ! I lived on Maui without caring as nobody cared how left it was only those involved it did not matter to us hunting every day and fishing every day living on the beach freaking great life ? might be dif now ? the idiocy of lockdown and what they are doing is going to destroy the islands of course
Madeira is looking pretty good ! heck mainland of Portugal is looking pretty good ! I was going to Vanuatu but that changed maybe will go there for dif reasons now
get a nice sailboat and avoid sail around the med or south pacific

even folks here on this forum are fake ! they are to into their football as they watch them take a knee stand on our flag hate this country whine about how bad they have it as colored folks making millions and you are racist but the excuses here is I love my football I don't care what they do/say ? folks are to comfy still they just care about what's streaming on netflix then saying they hate obama and biden and then watch football and whine more and do NOTHING OH they do post they got the new iPhone 13 then whine about privacy from their FB page using Gmail and so on

its funny and I dare say its going to happen unless we truly stand up

when I was working in Honduras our police chief got out of hand he ended up in cubes ! remember politicians being killed etc
pretty insane stuff and violence but also things happen when folks are bad they are found or never found but they will never do that again as they are dead nobody is going to go that far and stop this idiocy for a long freaking time
not sure I want to live like that and drop down that far as Honduras ? its tiring but the way we are going its game over for our freedom but people do stupid stuff they pay the price but they went to far to the other side of criminal they are like us but opposite

Italy has some serious stupidity but its been through a lot and has had many ups downs still a place many want to visit and yet many love living their ?
I love our country but not what it has become and cant stand the political climate (either side) so what now ? funny I see poland as a OK place

the jews that left Germany did not bail they saw the writing and saved themselves
the ones that had this OH its OK they won't do that to us did not end up so well
the few that fought from inside were to tiny to make much a dent but props to them !

I can say the rest of the world is not all stupid and the way our country is going with taxes and control we are heading off the deep end

You know nothing of what you speak.
California is as it is because of the federal government.
See prop. 187 and prop. 8

[Bulletdog]

You know nothing of what you speak.
California is as it is because of the federal government.
See prop. 187 and prop. 8

There has been so much wrongdoing, corruption, lying, fraud, government abuse, lack of representation, and stomping of our rights, both here in CA and Nationally, that I had forgotten about those two. Thanks for the reminder that at least some of us were still trying to make things better, even if we were thwarted by the feds.

[Grendelshooter]

There has been so much wrongdoing, corruption, lying, fraud, government abuse, lack of representation, and stomping of our rights, both here in CA and Nationally, that I had forgotten about those two. Thanks for the reminder that at least some of us were still trying to make things better, even if we were thwarted by the feds.

I was young when prop 187 came around.
I remember asking my dad about it one day on my way hone from school. He told me that if we didn’t stop the illegals from flooding the state they would be the tool by which leftists would inexorably change California. Everyone I knew was excited about it and happy when it passed.
And then a federal district judge said that the will of ‘We the people’ was unconstitutional.
And our Republican Governor refused to file appeals
And then his Democrat replacement officially dropped it, to the applause of the leftists.

It’s why I laugh at people who believe that voting matters:they will either cheat (been happening all over way before 2020), or simply invalidate your votes at court.
And people who think Republicans will save us. Lol. They hate you just as much as the left does, but at least the left is an honest and open enemy. There is no Republican politician alive that isn’t cut from the same cloth as Judas Iscariot. Not even Trump.

[Bulletdog]

I was young when prop 187 came around.
I remember asking my dad about it one day on my way hone from school. He told me that if we didn’t stop the illegals from flooding the state they would be the tool by which leftists would inexorably change California. Everyone I knew was excited about it and happy when it passed.
And then a federal district judge said that the will of ‘We the people’ was unconstitutional.
And our Republican Governor refused to file appeals
And then his Democrat replacement officially dropped it, to the applause of the leftists.

It’s why I laugh at people who believe that voting matters:they will either cheat (been happening all over way before 2020), or simply invalidate your votes at court.
And people who think Republicans will save us. Lol. They hate you just as much as the left does, but at least the left is an honest and open enemy. There is no Republican politician alive that isn’t cut from the same cloth as Judas Iscariot. Not even Trump.

Your perspective mirrors my own.

CA voted against illegal immigration and gay marriage, and by a large margin too. The government basically said, "well you all voted against it, but we are going to go ahead and do it anyway." I remember thinking way back then that we are screwed. We have no voice. No representation. The government has gone rogue and we are at their mercy unless we choose to fight. When Bush did the Patriot Act, I knew we were finished as a nation. Things have steadily declined in CA and the nation since then. Frankly, I'm pleasantly surprised things are not far worse than they are. I was expecting full communist dystopia by this point.

I agree that the people who think voting matters are laughable, but so are the people who think all Californians are leftist whackos and wish death upon everyone in the whole state.. There are definitely some vocal leftist whackos in this state, but its no different than any other state in that regard. Get anywhere near Austin, New Orleans, Altlanta, etc... and you'll see it there too. Any big shit hole city in any state. How come people don't wish all of Texas will fall in the ocean when the government passes some lefty BS there, or when the media lies and tells us that some leftist BS got voted in? I wish death upon the enemies of my country, not on its citizens who are my allies.