Time-Line Leading Up To The Collapse of Afghanistan

[Korgs130]

Yes, I did read the original article, Will.

According to this article: https://centerforsecuritypolicy.org/...n-afghanistan/




Your source is saying that 33x (thirty three times) less force would have been sufficient vs what U.S. command thought was needed 10 years ago when Taliban was much weaker.

No offense to you or the author of the original article. I respectfully disagree with him just based on the numbers. He provided a lot of interesting insight and viewpoints, but I think he's justifying things he wants to see rather than being objective based on the historical data.

Saying that 2.5k support troops operating out of one airfield would have addressed an issue of dysfunctional military for the whole country (as large as AF) is a very, very significant exaggeration.

In a large scheme of things it does not really matter if you have 2.5k or 25k troops in the country. From the size perspective of U.S. military it's almost the same number.

You respectfully disagree with the author? Based on what, your experience in Afghanistan? Do you understand his background? When guys like Peter Blaber talk, smart folks take the opportunity to shut up and listen, especially when it comes to fighting in places like Afghanistan.

When I first showed up at Bagram in March of ‘02 there were less than 1,000 U.S. “troops” there. That included all of the SOCOM ground and air assets as well as a squadron of AH64s, a squadron of A-10s, about 300 10th Mount Div soldiers plus the support for all of the above. 2,500 are more than enough to run Bagram AB, provide base security, and give logistical support as well as USSOCOM assistance to the Afghan Air Force & Special Forces.

[WillBrink]

You respectfully disagree with the author? Based on what, your experience in Afghanistan? Do you understand his background? When guys like Peter Blaber talk, smart folks take the opportunity to shut up and listen, especially when it comes to fighting in places like Afghanistan.

When I first showed up at Bagram in March of ‘02 there were less than 1,000 U.S. “troops” there. That included all of the SOCOM ground and air assets as well as a squadron of AH64s, a squadron of A-10s, about 300 10th Mount Div soldiers plus the support for all of the above. 2,500 are more than enough to run Bagram AB, provide base security, and give logistical support as well as USSOCOM assistance to the Afghan Air Force & Special Forces.

Regardless, if anyone knows what they're talking about on that topic it would be Blaber, and everyone from armchair dummy like me to Blaber and co know not using Bagram as the obvious staging point for permanent withdrawal was complete fail, and came as a surprise to no one but Biden and his TDS crew apparently as their excuse for it.

From what we now know about Milley et al, it's beyond difficult to conclude the way it went down to "mere" incompetence.

[marco.g]

Update from everyone’s favorite LtCol. He breaks down his current legal situation and is apparently bringing ucmj charges against Gen McKenzie.

https://youtu.be/TOrjiUnsaiw

[WillBrink]

Update from everyone’s favorite LtCol. He breaks down his current legal situation and is apparently bringing ucmj charges against Gen McKenzie.

Fixed...Now that's someone who gives a damn about what happens to the mil, Const. and his country and putting it all on the line.

[marco.g]

Fixed...Now that's someone who gives a damn about what happens to the mil, Const. and his country and putting it all on the line.

Yea - you can see from his body language he’s been through the wringer over the past weeks. But he’s sticking to it.

And like he said - he’s the only officer that’s been fired after what happened in Afghanistan. For demanding accountability no less.

[titsonritz]

Scheller pleads guilty, awaits sentencing...

[glocktogo]

Scheller pleads guilty, awaits sentencing...

They went easy on him. Letter of Reprimand and $5K forfeited. Throwing the book at him would've been fratricide to the Officer Corps.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ial-today.html

[georgeib]

They went easy on him. Letter of Reprimand and $5K forfeited. Throwing the book at him would've been fratricide to the Officer Corps.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ial-today.html

Should've received a promotion and a medal.

[flenna]

Punch Drunk Joe's administration is going to investigate themselves to see if they did anything wrong.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sta...tan-withdrawal