Holy Smokes this is bad.

[ABNAK]

I've said it before on here and will repeat it: the FBI should be disbanded and EVERY SINGLE ONE of those agents should be fired. Distribute their various responsibilities to other Federal LE organizations. They are a corrupt plague on our society and should be dealt with without mercy. ALL of them. Remember, it's the "rank and file" agents (who Hannity fellates) that tie people up with that bullshit "lying to a Federal agent" gotcha-charge. Sure, their superiors approve it, but they are involved with it at the ground level. BTW, that law should be repealed.

Also, don't give a damn if this is a popular opinion or not.

[Alex V]

Sure, when they come for me. But I don't see what is achieved by going after them. How far would I get. How many regular guys would I have to kill to "attempt" to get close to anyone relevant? Does that sacrifice justify the attempt?

You got a plan? Love to hear it. Especially if it doesn't involve hurting regular folks. What is the objective, remove Biden and create President Harris? Going after the FBI?

We've had guys like Reagan and Trump in office, the fact that things weren't "fixed" tells me that options available to me are limited to occasionally putting guys like Reagan and Trump in office.

The problem isn't I failed, the problem isn't you failed, the problem is we are greatly outnumbered by people who don't know what they are doing when they vote for these people and a scary number of people who DO know what they are doing when they vote for these people.

I can influence my little corner of the world. That's about it. If I was a recording artist, celebrity or pro athlete I would have greater influence.

But if there is something I'm not doing that would actually change things, even a little bit, and it's something I'm not currently doing...then please tell me and everyone else about it.

That’s why I said we, and not you or I.

At some point we need to organize, because we won’t survive by ourselves. The country certainly won’t.

Honestly I don’t have a plan, despite my Ukrainian-Jewish roots I don’t have Leon Trotsky‘s abilities in organizing.

[SomeOtherGuy]

Distribute their various responsibilities to other Federal LE organizations.

Part of the problem is that so many of the "laws" passed by Congress for a century or more are themselves corrupt. Federal criminal law basically went to hell during FDR's reign and never got better. If you have evil laws to start with, good people charged with enforcing them will ever cooperate with evil, or leave the job, replaced by others who will do it.

[SteyrAUG]

That’s why I said we, and not you or I.

At some point we need to organize, because we won’t survive by ourselves. The country certainly won’t.

Honestly I don’t have a plan, despite my Ukrainian-Jewish roots I don’t have Leon Trotsky‘s abilities in organizing.

So it won't be as easy as gathering together at Wright's Tavern. With modern digital tracking I don't think it's possible to organize anything, especially something like Constitutional Reset 2.0 where the government very much would be the target.

Patriot Acts, Federal agencies and everything would be brought to bear. And unlike 9-11, they would actually act on the intel and there would be inter agency cooperation like we've never seen before.

And again, the real problem is we are greatly outnumbered by people who do not want a constitutional republic, they do not want to be given that level of responsibility, they voted for a nanny state on purpose.

The government of the United States hasn't been stolen, the nature of the average American has been dramatically altered. They truly worry more about Caitlyn Jenner being given the freedom to use any bathroom than about the freedoms of ordinary people.

[SteyrAUG]

Part of the problem is that so many of the "laws" passed by Congress for a century or more are themselves corrupt. Federal criminal law basically went to hell during FDR's reign and never got better. If you have evil laws to start with, good people charged with enforcing them will ever cooperate with evil, or leave the job, replaced by others who will do it.

Yep, as much as we are able, we need to work the system. Now I know many here will roll their eyes and say it was "game over" a long time ago, but that isn't completely true, look at the strides we have made with conceal carry since the 1980s. I understand that CCWs probably shouldn't need to exist IF the second amendment was actually respected, but sometimes you have to do a work around to get where you want even if it isn't the way it was supposed to work.

[SomeOtherGuy]

Yep, as much as we are able, we need to work the system.

Or work to make the current system irrelevant and increasingly ignored. All the Covid "great reset" stupidity is actually starting to do this for a lot of people, many of whom don't really care about guns and RKBA. Work to rebuild and strengthen other frameworks, whether state and local government or just outside of government. Remind people at every opportunity what a cluster* the federal system is, and has been for a long time. Ask why people are being jailed for years for minor trespassing, but being released without any jail time for burning down a Target. Ask them why "Joe Biden" is forcing them to be injected with "dangerous Trump vaccines" that he swore never to take in 2020. Ask why federal taxes are 10-20 times other taxes, but what meaningful and useful services do you get from the feds in exchange? Ask them why "Biden" had us leave all our weapons and thousands of our supporters behind in Afghanistan, while Kamala literally hid from her own staff. Etc. etc.

Communism collapsed, not through violent revolution, but because the system was decrepit and weakening, and at some point the populations wouldn't stay quiet, and the insiders weren't getting enough benefit or believing in it enough to defend its continued existence. We don't need, or want, any violence or revolution, we just need to get enough people to open their eyes.

And unlike any of the Combloc, we don't need to invent some new form of government. We just need to go back to what the Constitution actually says, and the federal system before FDR and the Great Depression. Ideally without the Federal Reserve either. Since the federal Constitution is the supreme law, we literally just need people to follow existing law, minus the crazy that has poisoned it from FDR and since.

[Alex V]

So it won't be as easy as gathering together at Wright's Tavern. With modern digital tracking I don't think it's possible to organize anything, especially something like Constitutional Reset 2.0 where the government very much would be the target.

Patriot Acts, Federal agencies and everything would be brought to bear. And unlike 9-11, they would actually act on the intel and there would be inter agency cooperation like we've never seen before.

And again, the real problem is we are greatly outnumbered by people who do not want a constitutional republic, they do not want to be given that level of responsibility, they voted for a nanny state on purpose.

The government of the United States hasn't been stolen, the nature of the average American has been dramatically altered. They truly worry more about Caitlyn Jenner being given the freedom to use any bathroom than about the freedoms of ordinary people.

It seems this discussion had already taken place before in this nation’s history. Being outnumbered did not deter the founders.

These words were true then as they are now.
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”

[SteyrAUG]

It seems this discussion had already taken place before in this nation’s history. Being outnumbered did not deter the founders.

These words were true then as they are now.
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”

Talk about apples and watermelons.

So back then it was people who wanted freedom from the monarchy vs. those who wished to remain a B ritish subject. But even the loyalists weren't batshit insane and bent on the destruction of everything.

So keep hitting me with quotes about a time and place that is no longer possible and I'll see ya at Wright's Tavern for the super secret "patriots only" gathering. I'll be the guy in the "I'm Not A FBI Agent" t shirt. The secret knock is two taps...wait a few seconds...one tap....wait a few seconds...and then two more taps.

But don't tell anyone...it's a secret.

I call dibs on "Liberty Tree" for the name of my militia and I need to be made a Lt. Colonel at least. We'll need to make lists of people who need to be shot and those who only need to be tarred and feathered. I figure we can recruit from the next LARP convention or airsoft event.

[ViniVidivici]

We are NOT outnumbered by the leftists and wierdos.

WE outnumber THEM. What we lack is unity, cohesion, logistics and planning with clear goals.

WE definitely do outnumber THEM.

[Diamondback]

We are NOT outnumbered by the leftists and wierdos.

WE outnumber THEM. What we lack is unity, cohesion, logistics and planning with clear goals.

WE definitely do outnumber THEM.

This. Keeping us at each other's throats is what the kiddie-diddling freaks bank on to maintain their hold on power.