Afghanistan Lessons Learned report

[Diamondback]

Or worse yet the "they" of "we" do learn. If you, me, and a bunch of others pick up on history as a hobby it seems unlikely a professional group consensus repeatedly acts out ignorance or folly which gets in to the ultimate outcome having been desired all along.

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Goldfinger said it best... "Mr. Bond, in Chicago they have a saying. Once is happenstance, twice coincidence. Three times, now that's Enemy Action."

[chuckman]

Or worse yet the "they" of "we" do learn. If you, me, and a bunch of others pick up on history as a hobby it seems unlikely a professional group consensus repeatedly acts out ignorance or folly which gets in to the ultimate outcome having been desired all along.

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Classic 'appeal to authority': if experts say it, it must be true. Then when it bites them in the ass, they are guilty of the Tu quoque fallacy: well, they did it first. We have always been guilty of thinking we'd be different, if it didn't work for name-the-country-here, it would work for us.

About 6 months after we went into Iraq I read a classified (then classified, I think it's long since been declassified) report on 'lessons learned' during the first 6 months. It was really good, very objective. So I know we know how to be objective. I never understand, then, why we aren't always objective.

[SteyrAUG]

Or worse yet the "they" of "we" do learn. If you, me, and a bunch of others pick up on history as a hobby it seems unlikely a professional group consensus repeatedly acts out ignorance or folly which gets in to the ultimate outcome having been desired all along.

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So I'd wager 50/50. Half of it is deliberate undermining and the other half is incompetence.

What most people fail to consider is there isn't a unified New World Order conspiracy. Just like with politics and countries there are multiple groups with divergent agendas and they cooperate when it serves all of them, or most of them, and the rest of the time is spent trying to advance their group ahead of the others. Fake alliances are formed and secret alliances created. They will weaken another group for no other reason than that group being weaker is best for them. And just because you are running the world doesn't mean you are intelligent, enlightened or even have a practical world view. People with real power and groups with real power, just like the super rich (and often these are the same people) live in a reality bubble and usually see the world as they want to believe it exists because these aren't people who self evaluate or scrutinize their core beliefs for errors.

How many world leaders, who climbed to the top and often from humble origins and defeated capable opponents all along the way end up dead at the height of their power because keeping it is often more difficult than getting it.

[dwhitehorne]

Wow, whatever the CCP filmed Hunter doing in Beijing must be pretty explosive.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...er-with-china/

He knows China could release the electronic money transfers to the Bidens for the world to see. You know they have a complete list down to the dollar. Biden knows if he was to push China they would gladly prove to the world how corrupt our current government is. David