Kyle Lamb on 1-stage vs 2-stage and problems with…

[Jstud220]

I never understood why anyone would use a 2-stage outside of a precision role.


"Enhanced" milspec triggers (BCM PNT, ALG ACT, Centurion AMT, SOLGW) are where it's at IMO.

I’m right with you. I have SOLGW triggers in all of my lowers and love them. Obviously not as light as a Giessle but much lighter and more crisp than traditional mil spec. If you’ve ever experienced a rough, creepy, 7 1/2-8lb mil spec trigger you would definitely appreciate them much more after. All of mine have 5lb pull weights with no creep and most of the time I measure them in the high 4lb range, basically 5. No creep whatsoever and no break in period needed to lighten the pull.

[NYH1]

I have had a few inadvertent double taps with my Geissele GS2 2-Stage Trigger in my Colt 6920. I swapped it out and replaced it with a Sionic's Single Stage Enhanced Mil-Spec Trigger. Put the GS2 Trigger in my lower that I use for my MK12/AR15A4 clones. Haven't had any issues with any of them since the swap.

NYH1.

[thebolt]

I have been happy with the LaRue MBT triggers in my rifles and stopped purchasing Geissele triggers due to cost. I have been reluctant to try the SOLGW triggers but it's good to hear others are happy with them.

Thanks to all previous posters for sharing their experiences.

[LowSpeed_HighDrag]

Not denying that it happens, but I have thousands and thousands of rounds on my SSA and SSAE and have never had this issue...

[titsonritz]

Not denying that it happens, but I have thousands and thousands of rounds on my SSA and SSAE and have never had this issue...

Same here and suspect any issues, if any, would more likely be found in the triggers geared toward gaming.

[1168]

I don’t care if you doubt me.

I’ve yet to see someone run a 2-stage as quickly and effectively as a single stage at distances that most would use (i.e. closer ranges).

You do you, booboo.

You got me curious, so I did an informal test today. Using a 6920 upper that has been rebarrelled with a 14.5” MMC barrel with an A2 topped with a Comp M4s, and two lowers, a 6920 lower with H2 buffer, and a franken-lower with an A5H2, Colt spring, and Wilson Paul Howe TTU 2 stage, I fired 75 splits for a total of 150 rds. I used an USPSA target at 10 yds with a 3” sticker in the middle as an aiming point. I attempted to keep all shots in the A zone, but pulled 8 into the B/C, mostly with the stock Colt (S marked) trigger.

Results: Inconclusive. All splits with were .11 to .20. Most were .12 to .17. I was disappointingly inconsistent today, but you’d never know the difference one way or the other by watching and listening without the timer.

Ammo used was XM193 and a M855 non-magnetic clone.

The dot bouncing was my speed-limiting factor.

[sinister]

I never understood why anyone would use a 2-stage outside of a precision role.

"Enhanced" milspec triggers (BCM PNT, ALG ACT, Centurion AMT, SOLGW) are where it's at IMO.

Interesting since every M1, M14, M1903, M1917 rifle and M1 Carbine the Army equipped soldiers with had a two-stage trigger.

The two-stage helps ensure both safety and a decent, lower-weight break.

I agree most shooters would be best-served with a clean-breaking single-stage, as they support most close (300 yards and under) and fast target engagements.

[ExplorinInTheWoods]

I will say that there are a good amount of SSF triggers that have had an issue of firing on reset. Granted these guns do see a good amount of rounds.

[MadAngler1]

No issues with my 3 SSA triggers across several thousand rounds.

[Clint]

Great info on all those past battle rifles that doesn't seem to be common knowledge.

The typically longer sear engagement and longer travel of a 2 stage trigger improves mechanical drop safety and can help reduce accidental discharged.

Even the AK trigger is fundamentally this robust, long travel style even if many variants are machined such that the disconnector doesnt touch the hammer before sear release, so the second stage never kicks in.

Interesting since every M1, M14, M1903, M1917 rifle and M1 Carbine the Army equipped soldiers with had a two-stage trigger.

The two-stage helps ensure both safety and a decent, lower-weight break.

I agree most shooters would be best-served with a clean-breaking single-stage, as they support most close (300 yards and under) and fast target engagements.