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    This also explains why whenever somebody asks me for an author recommendation, of late my answer is always "William L. Shirer."
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    Quote Originally Posted by B52U View Post
    There would be a killer market for minor brush war documentaries like Rhodesia and the SA border conflict. Think of the TTPs and technical innovations that occurred during those conflicts. I suppose apartheid and anti-communist stuff doesn't play well today though.
    There are quite a few videos on YouTube from the Bush War while it was happening along with current interviews with people who lived there and fought in it.

    Can't recall the minute mark to jump to, but Smith mentions how Rhodesia was blasted as being white racists while simultaneously having a massive illegal immigration issue of non-whites fleeing their home countries for Rhodesia which sounds very similar to present day USA.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post

    And honestly, I'd rather park a bunch of kids in front of that and have them actually learn something about anything than the shit they normally watch or find myself watching Pawn Stars.

    Sure there were more important theaters of war, but again that usually precludes people running around with just a camera and getting anything worthy and surviving. In the Pacific, Victory at Sea is still probably the definitive documentation other than what was filmed by the Japanese. On the Russian front, very little was filmed considering how much was actually happening. I bet a bunch of people tried to film it and got blown up with everyone else.
    I like the shows about battles, be it Stalingrad, D-Day, the Bulge, Iwo Jima, Okinawa, etc. I just get annoyed with the endless droning about the Nazis themselves and their history/rise to power, etc., making entire series about them. It's like they have an obsession with it. As another poster suggested, it seems it is an effort in inundate the viewing public with "Nazi = Evil", as if we didn't know that already. I also tend to think this immersion in all-things-Nazi makes it much more easy and likely to have "Nazi" roll off the lips of someone who you disagree with politically. Worst part is those clueless libtard morons have no flippin' idea what a Nazi really was or how totally off-base their accusations are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B52U View Post
    There would be a killer market for minor brush war documentaries like Rhodesia and the SA border conflict. Think of the TTPs and technical innovations that occurred during those conflicts. I suppose apartheid and anti-communist stuff doesn't play well today though.
    Absolutely. More obscure conflicts like the Malaysian Insurgency, the Philippine Insurrection (early 1900's), stuff like that. I am a history buff and tire of being beat over the head with Nazi crap. Give us something actually interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Absolutely. More obscure conflicts like the Malaysian Insurgency, the Philippine war (early 1900's), stuff like that. I am a history buff and tire of being beat over the head with Nazi crap. Give us something actually interesting.
    The something different angle of The Great War was something I liked along with the week by week 100 years later format. Just wish I had caught the first couple of years + 100 years when it came on instead the binge watch catch up I had to do on their off days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    I like the shows about battles, be it Stalingrad, D-Day, the Bulge, Iwo Jima, Okinawa, etc. I just get annoyed with the endless droning about the Nazis themselves and their history/rise to power, etc., making entire series about them. It's like they have an obsession with it. As another poster suggested, it seems it is an effort in inundate the viewing public with "Nazi = Evil", as if we didn't know that already. I also tend to think this immersion in all-things-Nazi makes it much more easy and likely to have "Nazi" roll off the lips of someone who you disagree with politically. Worst part is those clueless libtard morons have no flippin' idea what a Nazi really was or how totally off-base their accusations are.
    I understood you from the first post and I get it. Just offering alternative POV. I probably have a couple hundred documentaries on DVD about WWII and with a lot of them there is a lot of retread of the same info over and over so I get your basic complaint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    [formerly the Military Channel] WTF is up with their Nazi fetish? I swear, it's Nazi this and Nazi that. I didn't think there were that many shows about Nazis. Gets friggin' old. I'll try to find something to watch while doing cardio early in the morning before work and that's all they have on. Thinking about calling and complaining as well as dropping that channel from my DTV package.

    If I called and complained about Nazi shows would that make me a Nazi then, seeing as how I'm sick of watching that crap? You know, if you complain about our all-Nazi 24/7 shit then you must be against anything showing them in a bad light, hence you must be a Nazi too. SMH
    As several posts have pointed out...
    Welcome to 2021. Seriously where have you been?
    You won't see an end to it until the prevailing politikal winds change.

    Personally, I like getting into the backstory of all that stuff, (and having watched several of the mainstream documentaries, I've noticed most of them suck, and are a bunch of wide-eyed gawping and over-buildup for little payoff, "but you guys like, that they were so evil and stuff, ermagherd". Ugh...), but even I am heartily sick of the endless parade of shitty recycled nonsense.

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    It's actually nice that History's started up "Cities of the Underworld" again after like a 10-year hiatus and NatGeo has been replacing some of its "all tuna" days with dusting off reruns of Drain The Oceans and Albert Lim's Lost Cities. Too bad we don't have anyone to pick up where Gunny left off with Mail Call and Lock n Load... kinda oversimplified but they were good "primer level" introductions.
    Oh yeah, those were great shows. I also liked "Ancient Tech" or whatever it was called, too, even if it was a bit speculative.

    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    There are quite a few videos on YouTube from the Bush War while it was happening along with current interviews with people who lived there and fought in it.

    Can't recall the minute mark to jump to, but Smith mentions how Rhodesia was blasted as being white racists while simultaneously having a massive illegal immigration issue of non-whites fleeing their home countries for Rhodesia which sounds very similar to present day USA....
    Yes, contemporary "history" also leaves out the part where Britain and the rest of the so-called anti-communist west shanked the Rhodies in the back by backing the Zanla/Zipra (sp?) groups that were raising the havoc in the first place, and sabotaging pretty much all reasonable attempts at political solutions. Sure, there was also direct Russian involvement, but hey, with friends like these, eh?
    If you look into it, the politics we see overtly today were already WELL entrenched even back then...
    Then there's the whole memory-hole of post WW2 "liberation" events, but that's another topic.

    Much as I hate the way that site is going, youtube is freaking slaying on the historical front these days. A lot of the privately-produced history content has come a LONG way since the olden days. There are quite a number of channels providing as-good-as, or better-than (old school)history-channel level content.
    The Great War/Great War is a great channel covering all the stuff about WW1 you thought you knew, and a whole lot of events regarding the fallout of that conflict that have been largely forgotten. A great break from WW2, if you still want to talk about a world-shaping conflict, but are tired of nawtzeez 24/7.
    Also, Mark Felton is a great "variety-history" channel with everything from WW2 to Falklands content.
    I'm also liking Sandrhoman and Schola Gladiatora for oldschool pike and blade era warfare.
    There's also a great channel calle The Operations Room that does really neat minute-by-minute narrated animated battle maps of various battles.
    I mean, I could go on for a while listing off current-production YT history channels, on top of the unsung heroes who've kept alive the ancient archives of decades past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellybean View Post
    Also, Mark Felton is a great "variety-history" channel with everything from WW2 to Falklands content.
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    I have really started getting in to Felton's clips. Usually short, but specific, informative, and new info for me that apparently the bulk of historians skip over.

    Lance "The History Guy" Geiger and his wife. Fairly high percentage of military related topics, but not all and(similar to Felton) he digs up stuff not many others do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B52U View Post
    There would be a killer market for minor brush war documentaries like Rhodesia and the SA border conflict. Think of the TTPs and technical innovations that occurred during those conflicts. I suppose apartheid and anti-communist stuff doesn't play well today though.
    A few years ago there was a one episode show about the start of "contractors" and their role in Africa. This happened in the 90s. Most of the guys were S. African/Rhodesian/Ausie SF. It was an interesting show. I saw it maybe 10-15 years ago

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    yup on the youtube channels so many good ones on various things
    from Roman history to other conflicts to WWI or WWII day by day or Korea or odd off stories not heard

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