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Film is medium. No different from books or spoken word. We also don't need to be Hollywood specific.Originally Posted by HKGuns
And if you don't think films change anything, you haven't seen "The China Syndrome", that f'ing movie destroyed our domestic nuclear program. Films can change big things.
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Chuck, we miss ya man.
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Actual Die Hard 2 was the film that sold handguns. The lore of the Glock was born with the Glock 7.
First Die Hard was a hour and a half long promo for the HK MP5. But yeah both Die Hard and Lethal Weapon helped move some Beretta's.
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Chuck, we miss ya man.
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Yup. China Syndrome was first movie I saw on Showtime, circa 1982ish, definitely made a dent, especially with public perception....
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I remember being in HS eagerly looking forward to seeing Platoon & while I normally wait a couple weeks for the crowds to die down vs fighting the early debut days we (my gf now wife) decided last minute to go.
Got in late but managed to find two seats in the back...while I really enjoyed the movie, it was the lights coming on & witnessing so many men slumped over being comforted / some beginning to sob that made the impact. Many were wearing fatigues & we just sat there taking it all in. Even today typing it out knots my throat up some.
"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass."
Japanese Admiral Yamamoto, 1941
"A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but a foolish man's heart directs him toward the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2:
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The M9 had already been adopted by the military three years before Die Hard was released. That ship had already sailed. But that said, I'd imagine the movie sold a lot of police departments on the Beretta. Even though Glock was quickly getting the corner on the market at the time, I still remember that a LOT of PDs were carrying Berettas in 90s.
Also, I have to disagree about the sequels. Die Hard 2 wasn't as great as it was more or less a remake of the first one with a different setting. Also the rogue-special-ops-soldiers-turned-mercenaries" bad guy trope was really overused at the time. But I thought the movie was still entertaining. Die Hard With a Vengeance was really good because it went in a different direction than the first two. Plus, Jeremy Irons and Samuel L. Jackson were great additions to the cast. The 4th and 5th movies? Hard pass.
Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who do not.-Ben Franklin
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Platoon was the first major Vietnam movie since Apocalypse Now, and did change public perception. Even though the history was very, very wrong.
Die Hard, no one cares. No one cares about accuracy of weaponology, tactics, what gun came when. The only people who care are gun people.
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Here is my take on films that changed everything:
Star Wars - Industrial Light & Magic and their special effects changed everything.
Avatar - James Cameron delayed production because the 3D / CG technology needed to be invented before his vision could be realized. This movie was groundbreaking and revolutionary from a technological standpoint.
Memento - Christopher Nolan's editing and how he played with time changed everything in movies.
Toy Story - CG animated films can be traced directly back to this film. This started it all.
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Akira Kurosawa movies.... "Seven Samurai" gave us "The Magnificent Seven", "Yojimbo" gave us "A Fistful of Dollars" and "Last Man Standing". Star Wars was heavily influenced, along with a boat load of other movies, like the use of action rain shots in "Blade Runner","Matrix" series and "LOTR Two Towers".
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Outlaw Josey Wales - changed what everyone thought a western should be
A person who is not inwardly prepared for the use of violence against him is always weaker than the person committing the violence. - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago
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Love Kurosawa films. My first theater experience was Ran and holy christ, the massive battle formation scenes were not CGI generated. The story was obviously King Lear.
I think the Seven Samurai was the first film that changed how "some" westerners view the Japanese after the war and to a lesser extent Rashomon. First time many began to see them as "people" again.
Yojimbo is wonderful of course, but the sequel Sanjuro will always be my favorite. Most have never heard of it but his first film Sanshiro Sugata was the Judo Saga so it you were a martial artist it was a lot of fun. One of Kurosawa's most powerful films has no samurai or martial arts at all, Ikiru explored the meaning of life in a thoughtful way.
Kagemusha is the brilliant samurai film that most have never seen. Throne of Blood is another excellent Shakespeare for samurai retelling of MacBeth.
It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.
Chuck, we miss ya man.
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