12.5 range

[tk390]

Sorry if this has been answered, and if so, where?

I have 12.5 1:8 twist barrel and I am looking for ammo style/weight ect… information. Everything I find is close distance ballistic from a 10.5 inch barrel and I am looking for reliable performance at distance. I am trying to find what ammo selection would give me the best performance at 200 yards (or further?)

I understand shot placement so on an so forth, the question. Is what ammo provides a lethal wound track, expansion or fragmentation and what are max distance of those rounds?

Any help is appreciated

[ggammell]

You’ll be fine with any of the major bonded rounds like gold dot, le223t3/trophy bonded bear claw, fusion etc with a 12.5 at 200. No problems. Gold Dots are known to have pretty low threshold for expansion so you can push them out further and still achieve expansion.

[tk390]

You’ll be fine with any of the major bonded rounds like gold dot, le223t3/trophy bonded bear claw, fusion etc with a 12.5 at 200. No problems. Gold Dots are known to have pretty low threshold for expansion so you can push them out further and still achieve expansion.

What weight would be best for this? The le223t3 is 62 gr, a lot of people tout the 77gr mk262, what end of the spectrum is better?


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[ggammell]

What weight would be best for this? The le223t3 is 62 gr, a lot of people tout the 77gr mk262, what end of the spectrum is better?


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What do you want to shoot? Paper or people?

262 is an open tip match round not well suited for barriers or hard objects. Bear claw is bonded and is suited to punch through obstacles.

Yes. 262 has put a lot of people in the ground but rules for war and rules for home are different. You’ll notice not many domestic LE agencies use it for people.

[tk390]

What do you want to shoot? Paper or people?

262 is an open tip match round not well suited for barriers or hard objects. Bear claw is bonded and is suited to punch through obstacles.

Yes. 262 has put a lot of people in the ground but rules for war and rules for home are different. You’ll notice not many domestic LE agencies use it for people.

My department uses federal 55g TRU in 10.5 rock rivers. This works fine in the urban areas but I am trying to gather info for our rural areas in my personal 12.5. As an LEO OTM/hollow point etc. are on the table


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[ggammell]

So people. There is no need for the OTM’s precision orientation for inside 200 yards. It fragments and may not penetrate.

Whether you’re LE or not matters little about what bullet you use. You will be judged by every trigger pulls as a use of force.

The 55 TRU is also a terrible round for any barrier. Shoot a car with a hell block or even a paper target for that matter with it. It disintegrates. For a straight up person to person shoot, it may be fine but the number of barriers LE faces routinely, it’s a set up for undesired results.

[1168]

A really good option is Fusion MSR, also. It will absolutely expand at 200 from a 12.5”. It is similar to the Gold Dots Ggammel mentioned.

[Diamondback]

A really good option is Fusion MSR, also. It will absolutely expand at 200 from a 12.5”. It is similar to the Gold Dots Ggammel mentioned.

Isn't the main difference between 62gr GD and Fusion MSR box and headstamp?

[Diamondback]

A really good option is Fusion MSR, also. It will absolutely expand at 200 from a 12.5”. It is similar to the Gold Dots Ggammel mentioned.

Isn't the main difference between 62gr GD and Fusion MSR box and headstamp?

[CPM]

Honestly, it doesn’t matter. Any expanding rounds are about the same. Any AP round is about the same. 193/262 are about the same ballistically.

They all fly about the same at 200. Good luck explaining shooting though something to hit a subject at 200 yards. If you can find an officer willing to throw rounds through a barrier to hit a subject he can’t see at 200 yards he should be fired.

It’s not sexy, but it really is shot placement. I just witnessed a buddy of mine win a 10k run and gun with shots to 550 and 650 using 193 from a 12.5.