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Thread: IF you had to take the vaccine, which one should you take?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
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    But at least if someone experiences sudden death their family can rest well knowing their loved one “did their part”.


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    Don't forget that it "would have been much worse" if they weren't vaxxed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troutrunner View Post
    Pretty much only in the 16-29 year old males at again pretty low numbers. If that's not you then you are fine or go with the J&J.

    Covid causes myocarditis at much higher rates than the shot. Newsflash, people get myocarditis without vaccines or covid. It's been going on for a very long time.
    I was following that but then why are some countries limiting 16-29 year olds from getting the vaccine or getting both shots? If covid causes more then shouldn't there be even more reason to vaccinate kids since it would reduce their chances of myocarditis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    A lot of drugs have that. It's a catchall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arik View Post
    I was following that but then why are some countries limiting 16-29 year olds from getting the vaccine or getting both shots? If covid causes more then shouldn't there be even more reason to vaccinate kids since it would reduce their chances of myocarditis?

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    It goes back to risk assessment. I should have been more clear.

    That age group 16-29 is low risk for getting severe covid and for getting myocarditis from covid. The median age for getting myocarditis from covid is 54yo and the overall numbers for myocarditis from covid are 15 times more than baseline. At ages over 29yo, you are out of the 16-29 risk from the shot and the shot is more protective, so, you don't get severe covid or myocarditis.

    Falls in line with my original recommendations. If you are older, or have risk factors, you are better off with the shot. If you are a kid, or pretty young and healthy, it is harder for me to compel someone to get the shot. That being said, I see people in their 20's with severe Rona (mostly kinda chunky at least).

    Again, each shot has it's own reasons to get and each personal case requires it's own reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    This is a very good critique of how covid was mishandled from the beginning. While I don't agree with him on the vaccine advice, I do agree with his overall analysis.
    Interesting how you think Trump mishandled the virus from the beginning but still choose to support him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsunsurf View Post
    Interesting how you think Trump mishandled the virus from the beginning but still choose to support him.
    2020 was a vote for America or this leftist, marxist, new world disorder you're seeing play out before your very eyes. There were 2 choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandsunsurf View Post
    Interesting how you think Trump mishandled the virus from the beginning but still choose to support him.
    Anyone with a brain would have predicted the dumpster fire of Biden's Covid "plan". TDS was and remains a far greater threat to us than Covid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyLate View Post
    Anyone with a brain would have predicted the dumpster fire of Biden's Covid "plan". TDS was and remains a far greater threat to us than Covid.

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    There you go thinking very clearly and expressing it concisely. You must be one of those humans with a soul.


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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    2020 was a vote for America or this leftist, marxist, new world disorder you're seeing play out before your very eyes. There were 2 choices.
    You’re g0dd8mned right. Anyone who still cannot see this is not worth your time. They are truly lost. Let the dead bury the dead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arik View Post
    A lot of drugs have that. It's a catchall

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    Yep. And a lot of drugs I do not take.


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