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    German Army selects ELCAN Specter DR 1-4x

    With EOTech and Trijicon being major players, I don't hear that much about ELCAN or really know much about their products. Presumably they make a quality optic, although I've heard some maintain that their technology is becoming dated.

    "Leonardo Germany GmbH has signed a contract with the Bundeswehr’s office of Equipment, Information Technology and In-Service Support, the BAAINBw, to provide 107,929 ELCAN Specter DR 1-4x. Deliveries of the optics are expected to begin in the third quarter of 2021. The ELCAN Specter is currently in service with the Canadian, British, Australian and Norwegian armies and most recently the Danish Army."


    https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...ecter-dr-1-4x/
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    Google "SU-230"--it's basically a SpecterDR with an NSN on it for SOCOM.

    Good news: They're supposedly very rugged optics thanks to the adjustments all being external in the mount. Bad news is they're heavy and chunky, and OMGWTF EXPENSIVE--you can get two ACOG's for the same price.
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    I feel the German army is at least 10 years behind the times with that choice.

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    It's a solid, conservative choice. Trustworthy and reliable. But with an order that big I think I would have tried to pressure them to extend battery life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bp7178 View Post
    I feel the German army is at least 10 years behind the times with that choice.
    I agree. 4x is so..... 2000s. A 1 to 6 seems at a minimum what you'd want. But then again, weren't most german WWII snipers using a 4x?

    I totally feel like de-ja-vu with this topic.
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    I was surprised to find out how popular is is in Europe.

    The ELCAN Specter is currently in service with the Canadian, British, Australian and Norwegian armies and most recently the Danish Army.
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    In a lot of ways, 1 & 4 makes more sense than 1-4.

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    There are very rugged, they are virtually indestructible, but they are heavy, and they are expensive.

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    The mount interface sucks !

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbhike View Post
    In a lot of ways, 1 & 4 makes more sense than 1-4.
    I’ve heard this point made and kind of agree. With my Steiner P4Xi I’ve shot a total of one five shot group on 2.5x. Every other shot fired with that optic has been on 1x or 4x. I’m sure someone out there with more real world experience uses the intermediate magnification levels, or can articulate a valid benefit of them, but personally I’d be all over a 1x&4x with somewhat more compact dimensions than a typical LPVO….that I could actually afford of course.

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