German Army selects ELCAN Specter DR 1-4x

**Wake27** · 10-17-21, 12:34

I like them for issues optics. I’d never spend that much money on one and would at least want a better mount than ARMS levers but the optic itself was good in my limited experience.

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**BrigandTwoFour** · 10-17-21, 12:51

I have one of the fixed 4x models intended for the British military, and I'm honestly a fan of it. It's rugged, exceptionally clear, and works well. I appreciate the LED illumination (though I also have an LED ACOG that is way brighter). I'm not a big fan of the ARMS mount, and I haven't found any company out there willing to work up an alternative due to low market share.

All of that said, I don't think there's much a future for high dollar prismatic scopes like the Elcan or ACOG. They have a role to fill, and they're good at it, but they really do lose out on a lot of features people have come to expect from more modern optics.

**jsbhike** · 10-17-21, 13:28

Originally Posted by Wake27

I like them for issues optics. I’d never spend that much money on one and would at least want a better mount than ARMS levers but the optic itself was good in my limited experience.

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The handful of reviews I have seen griped about the ARMS mount, usually with an add in that they should have used a better type for the cost.

**sinister** · 10-17-21, 13:42

Kevin Boland here on the site used these when he served in the Canadian Army. I'm not sure they were popular due to the mount's durability.

Maybe he'll chime in, first-person experience and all ...

**Slater** · 10-17-21, 14:12

No experience with the ARMS mount, but I take it that it's a somewhat dated design?

**Diamondback** · 10-17-21, 14:34

Originally Posted by sinister

Kevin Boland here on the site used these when he served in the Canadian Army. I'm not sure they were popular due to the mount's durability.

Maybe he'll chime in, first-person experience and all ...

CF standard-issue is a single-magnification 3.4x, they call it the C79 and US issued it as the M134 with a special reticle for the M249. I think some of their special-ops guys got SpecterDR's, but if I'm recalling what the guys at CGN have said right anyone who had permission and funds would dump it for ACOG, Aimpoint, Eotech, pretty much ANYTHING else at first opportunity.