Inflation, Energy and living on a fixed income.

[Hank6046]

I don't know how more and more people didn't see this coming. Almost every working man I know has talked about shortages in their respective industries, the price of gas and the understanding that dark days seem to be on the horizon. I'm not saying that this is the beginning of the end or anything, but with unemployment up not for the lack of jobs, and small business getting beat to death by lockdowns, this is a situation that that most people haven't seen in a very long time.

[223to45]

Yeah, we have been trying to decide if we should go ahead and add another pig and cow to the freezer. We have a good abit now, but.

Stocking up on other stuff too.

Only 10 months in, they are telling us to lower our expectations.

I figured as long as we have electricity, we got meat.

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[THCDDM4]

This is why a long term storage food plan with proper rotation and stocking is so important. The food supply chain is relatively fragile, may not seem that way, but it is, more so each passing year.

I could live without most things, food and water are not on that list.

I keep minimum 6 months food supply for the whole family on the shelves in the basement, 200 gallons of long term water and I also have a big ass freezer chest full to the brim of meat on top of that and we always keep every refrigerator and pantry fully stocked with food in my house.

I’ve never felt like in the near future I might actually need to utilize the long term storage food more than I do currently.

There were a few weeks after Covid struck that I felt similar, but right now things are pointing to a lean and mean winter.

It’s getting weirder out there by the day.

It really feels like something big is going down and will drop Soon.

I really hope my gut feeling is wrong.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Our food pantry is wide and deep closet. It is a nightmare to rotate and control stock. We just threw out a bunch of food from last year that was out of date. I wanted to make the shelves into roll-in/out shelves so that we could actually see and place things better; i got vetoed.

[SteyrAUG]

Luckily I moved from Florida to Iowa. As a result I have almost half a year of open window weather vs. running the AC for 11 months. My power bills, which include tvs left on all day long, computers up around the clock and things like that are about 60% of what they were in Florida and my overall cost of living is about half of what I left behind and Florida was still climbing when I left.

My household income vs. cost of living has been dramatically offset compared to what it was in Florida where every month was a break even month. I'm not getting rich or anything but I am more comfortable. When you factor in comparative quality of life considerations, it's all win. I like every single one of my neighbors. I like almost every person I have met. I don't have any plans to get even with anyone because nobody has really done anything yet that requires it. There are of course bad people, but so far I haven't met them.

Worst complaint I have is I still see stupid shit in traffic from time to time and Wal Mart is still Wal Mart.

[Esq.]

This is why a long term storage food plan with proper rotation and stocking is so important. The food supply chain is relatively fragile, may not seem that way, but it is, more so each passing year.

I could live without most things, food and water are not on that list.

I keep minimum 6 months food supply for the whole family on the shelves in the basement, 200 gallons of long term water and I also have a big ass freezer chest full to the brim of meat on top of that and we always keep every refrigerator and pantry fully stocked with food in my house.

I’ve never felt like in the near future I might actually need to utilize the long term storage food more than I do currently.

There were a few weeks after Covid struck that I felt similar, but right now things are pointing to a lean and mean winter.

It’s getting weirder out there by the day.

It really feels like something big is going down and will drop Soon.

I really hope my gut feeling is wrong.

This. This is how Americans used to live. It was common, expected. Then came "convenience" etc....Well, now we reap the rewards of all that easy living.

Me, I'm good. Bought a brand new Lopi wood stove in November to replace my old one (old one under a tarp now in the shed as a "spare")... 8 cords of seasoned firewood. We canned and dehydrated non stop from our garden and orchard for about 5 weeks straight and just finished about a week ago...Raising a steer for next spring- 2x 20' freezers still have some of last years in them, chickens running all over the yard...Will kill a couple feral hogs and deer in the next month, maybe a Nilgai (EXCELENT meat and a good bull is 500 Plus Pounds)..... Don't worry about much.

[Arik]

This. This is how Americans used to live. It was common, expected. Then came "convenience" etc....Well, now we reap the rewards of all that easy living.

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Not just. It's easy to say Americans are fat and lazy and "convenience". And there's definitely truth to that .... without a doubt. But there's also more people and the more people there is the less space there is per person. Try keeping all that in a one/two bedroom apartment with about 700sq ft

Sure you could say move out of that area but people are social creatures and if everyone did that you'll just be moving that place around with no real difference. For example. When I moved to the suburbs in 96 there was not much here. It was lots of farm land and older developments dotted the landscape. Houses built in the 60s-80s. Today there's almost no farmland left. Theres almost no "woods" left. In 2007 I used to go to a local outdoor range that was almost walking distance from me. Today Id have to walk through two dozen backyards to get there. The bridge is closed because it was never meant to take on so much traffic and I have to use the main roads and go around and because of so many houses theres calls to close the range..... which is basically an old farm. If they close some developer will scoop in and buy it up and put four multi million dollar houses on it. So this area is nothing but McMansions. Why? Because everyone thought the same thing....let's move to where there more land. And yes people are also creatures of habit so convenience does play a role

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[GH41]

Aren’t SS payments going up by a record amount? I have not doubt that it won’t cover the actual increases.

A also saw that we are going to use more coal because NG is too expensive and I assume in tight supply.

It would hilarious if our CO2 emissions went up or stopped their decline, because of Biden’s energy policy and war on natural gas.

SS is nothing after you buy Medicare supplements to insure yourself. If you are not insured and get sick the doctors and hospital will take everything you own. Don't count on SS checks for buying anything but cheap pet food to eat.

[Honu]

remember facebook is going to turn you in if you talk about preparing food and or storing it makes you a terrorist !

[Esq.]

Not just. It's easy to say Americans are fat and lazy and "convenience". And there's definitely truth to that .... without a doubt. But there's also more people and the more people there is the less space there is per person. Try keeping all that in a one/two bedroom apartment with about 700sq ft

Sure you could say move out of that area but people are social creatures and if everyone did that you'll just be moving that place around with no real difference. For example. When I moved to the suburbs in 96 there was not much here. It was lots of farm land and older developments dotted the landscape. Houses built in the 60s-80s. Today there's almost no farmland left. Theres almost no "woods" left. In 2007 I used to go to a local outdoor range that was almost walking distance from me. Today Id have to walk through two dozen backyards to get there. The bridge is closed because it was never meant to take on so much traffic and I have to use the main roads and go around and because of so many houses theres calls to close the range..... which is basically an old farm. If they close some developer will scoop in and buy it up and put four multi million dollar houses on it. So this area is nothing but McMansions. Why? Because everyone thought the same thing....let's move to where there more land. And yes people are also creatures of habit so convenience does play a role

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Life is about choices. Ask SteyrAug how much happier he is, making the same money, living in Iowa now vs. Florida....

This is a BIG country, not as big as Russia of course but there are plenty of places where people can live in small communities in a traditional manner. Yes, people are social creatures and "community" matters- but have you never heard someone explain how lonely they were in a city of a Million People? It's a quality vs. quantity thing. Just because you are surrounded by strangers- that's not a fulfilling "community" in terms of human interaction.