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    How To Debate "Gun Nuts"

    My latest vid attempts to educate anti gun types if they actually want to have a rational discussion with the pro gun/pro 2A/pro Liberty folks like those who visit this forum. There's some obvious reverse psych at work there, the title quickly makes it obvious who watched it and who knee jerk responded to the title. What other majors did I miss? I did mistake the 1934 NFA for the GCA of 68.

    "Here I cover how those who support gun ownership shut down and turn off when discussing the topic with people who favor gun control, and how you can avoid it if you wish to have a real discussion vs talking at each other."

    0:00 - 4:05 Intro
    4:06 - 11:56 Know something about guns
    11:57 - 16:10 Don't compare the US to other countries
    16:11 - 26:08 Be honest about your goals!
    26:09 - 29:15 "Gun violence" as a category and term.
    29:16 - 37:20 “You will never win against the military so don’t bother.”
    37:21 - 42:35 Not an American? Don’t try and understand US gun culture...

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    Here’s the problem. Anti gun people have no interest in having a rational, fact based discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkslinger View Post
    Here’s the problem. Anti gun people have no interest in having a rational, fact based discussion.
    Exactly, and that vid exposes it. For that 1% that does, now they know how to approach it, for the other 99%, they're exposed as having no interest in a rational fact based discussion.
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    I don't debate people who want to take away my freedom.
    Having said that, anti gunnners on the whole seem to have zero information about guns and dont want any at all.
    Like being ignorant is Bliss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    I don't debate people who want to take away my freedom.
    Having said that, anti gunnners on the whole seem to have zero information about guns and dont want any at all.
    Like being ignorant is Bliss.
    Hence the vid. It exposes that reality, and challenges whether the interest in rational fact based discussion exists. Vast majority of the time, as we know, it does not.
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    Choking them out is just about the only “debate” worth having with those turds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkslinger View Post
    Here’s the problem. Anti gun people have no interest in having a rational, fact based discussion.
    +1

    I'd rather explain astrobiology to fourth graders, some of them will actually understand.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    I thought this was a pretty good, but a little long, direct way to refute a lot of the gun grabbers BS.

    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    I support the 2A but (insert infringement here) gun owners present more of a danger than do anti-gun nut jobs. They use gun ownership as a badge of legitimacy in support of things like government licensing schemes and background checks which are the basic tools used by government that most all anti-2A schemes flow from.

    Instead of debating an anti-gun kook, debate your fellow gun owners who believe government mandatory background check schemes are a good thing. Government imposed licensing schemes is a good thing.Government imposed two-tiered society of prohibited and non-prohibited (yet) persons is a good thing. Generally speaking, the logic will be that you must surrender your liberties to government in order to preserve same. After all, only a 'nut' would suggest the 2A means what is says. 'Common sense' ya know.
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