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    Quote Originally Posted by john armond View Post
    Reading on a car forum I frequent and saw where Trump is already being blamed in passing:
    ETA: I’m not sure how to post his actual tweet, so I just copy/pasted it.


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    Might the prop gun have been secretly loaded with real bullets by a Trump supporter, to punish Alec Baldwin for his Trump parodies? Should be a line of inquiry.
    Lemme guess..... Russia!!

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    I'm just a Fudd, so please bear with me.....

    As alluded to earlier: it is not a war zone, it is not hunting a ground, it is not a target shooting venue, it is not a self-defense situation. It is make believe. With today's special effects capabilities, there is no reason for a functioning firearm to be on a movie set unless in possession by security.

    They want to hold gun manufacturers responsible for gun violence. When will Hollywood be held responsible for promotion of gun violence and other forms of behavior detrimental to the smooth functioning of society?

    There. I'll go away now.

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    I can't stand his arrogant libtard ass, but.......this was obviously an accident and a lady died as a result. As many "strikes" as I give him in the butt-wipe category, I can't fault him for this.
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    It's not an accident when you are in charge and 'accidents' happen daily. That is negligence. This "accident", provided what we know so far, and based on professionals reporting, was completely preventable and there were fore-warnings, occurrences, that indicated something like this was likely to happen on that set.

    If the gun had blown up and killed AB with no prior indications of problems on the set, that would be an accident. If they had bought blanks from a company and one killed someone and they were found to have been double loaded with hard debris inside. That would be an accident. This whole deal was writing on the wall the way it has been relayed to the public thus far.

    Baldwin - Co-producer, Actor, Co-story writer, handler of weapon after others had had firing issues just days before, film crew leaving site en-mass prior to REHEARSAL of the scene where he kills the DP. That is not an accident. It's stupidity, arrogance, negligence.

    He deserves at least 10 years for this and have his empire sued into ruin as that seems to be what Liberals like to do.

    He was fully in charge as a professional wearing many hats for that production. No other professional in any realm of work would get away with what he's trying to get away with. Ok, Hillary, but she doesn't count. He's trying to get away with politician level crimes. He needs to have a talk with Bill Cosby about crimes and comedians vs crimes and politicians.

    If he had the gun in his hand when it fired, he is to blame. He knew or should have known it was an unsafe situation by the nature of his involvement in that particular movie process and his lifetime experience in the industry. Mr. Knowitall can't play stupid now.

    I'll leave open the possibility that someone from the union, a deranged maga person, a false flag antifa type, got in there and somehow planted a live round, hell the ghost of Mickey Mouse, but all those warning signs prior to this happening. You just can't ignore those warnings as a normal person much less a professional in charge and yet he did.... in a rehearsal no less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    I can't stand his arrogant libtard ass, but.......this was obviously an accident and a lady died as a result. As many "strikes" as I give him in the butt-wipe category, I can't fault him for this.
    Pretty much. The fault is 100% with the gun wranglers who were the "safties" for the prop guns they provided. I don't just hand out guns to people who are clueless and expect that nothing will go wrong.

    Worse yet, Baldwin will turn this into a personal crusade and an example of why guns are so very dangerous and must be more strictly regulated. Maybe it will result in a ban on film use of prop guns which were once live firearms. No more post samples for the film industry, play with airsoft like everyone else has to.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Worse yet, Baldwin will turn this into a personal crusade and an example of why guns are so very dangerous and must be more strictly regulated. Maybe it will result in a ban on film use of prop guns which were once live firearms. No more post samples for the film industry, play with airsoft like everyone else has to.
    Either way, it's a win/win for Baldwin.
    I can see him now making the rounds as the anti-gun poster child whom we should all feel sorry for.
    When in fact, Baldwin had enough "juice" to shut down production until filming with weapons was made safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-grunt View Post
    I actually just saw a video on this. John Wick used fake guns that use composed air to run the action. They then add muzzle blasts with computer effects.
    Considering most of the shots were contact distance they probably didn't have a choice.

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    I seriously doubt that it was a live round. From what I heard so far the bastards were so cheap that there’s no way that they would’ve actually fired a live round. Ammo cost a lot of money.
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    Either way, it's a win/win for Baldwin.
    I can see him now making the rounds as the anti-gun poster child whom we should all feel sorry for.
    When in fact, Baldwin had enough "juice" to shut down production until filming with weapons was made safe.
    For me it's win/win. This costs Baldwin who will need to fund some kind of defense, legal or otherwise AND it costs Hollywood and anyone who hires Baldwin. How many producers are going to want to cast him in their next film? The answer is less than last week.

    Not like I give a F if I ever see whatever film this was going to be. Hollywood as a whole wants to be anti gun...fine. Let them use airsoft or true prop guns. No more realistic looking brass rainbows in your action hero films. Let them pay big money to CGI all that crap.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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