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    Quote Originally Posted by prdubi View Post
    From my very short time at Stembridge for a summer work spot...

    Firearms prop handling is pretty strict and anal retentive..

    Nobody at Stembridge was lazy in the safety department.

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    Stembridge was the exception, and once broken up independent "gun wranglers" took over and prop guys were seen as props and given no more respect than one would give a squirt gun. Most actors don't even know these were once genuine firearms modified for use with blanks, and in some cases unmodified firearms simply loaded with blanks. Actors know virtually nothing about the prop guns in their hands for the most part. The days of Stembridge and the related accountability and safety briefings are no more.

    The exception being actors who take the time to obtain actual firearms instruction in order to more credibly portray somebody skilled with firearms.
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    Alec Baldwin has always been a selfish pig and a political enemy of America, once is an accident, twice?
    Come on Twice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Brandon Lee "may" have been killed intentionally. His father however had a fatal allergic reaction to a popular analgesic taken by many in Hong Kong. He had a previous reaction that was not fatal but nobody made the connection. Using aspirin rather than a more traditional remedy in the form of an analgesic would have saved Lee's life.

    There is so much misinformation surrounding the death of Lee I really cannot have this conversation. Believe what you will, but some objective investigation will probably change your mind. Bruce Lee had no "secrets of the kung fu" world, in fact he was abandoning most of it in favor of a more practical, eclectic system.

    Furthermore, Lee began his classical training with Yip Man at age 13 and was in the US by age 18. His knowledge of Wing Chun was very incomplete and he had less than 5 years of study in a popular Hong Kong style, he didn't have any secrets to divulge other than his own personal realizations. There is also no "kung fu" mafia operating in Hong Kong making sure nobody learns secret Chinese arts, there is to the contrary a chain of schools known as Ching Wu that were established in many countries in order to promote correct, traditional Chinese boxing instruction. Given that one of these Ching Wu schools was based in San Francisco, I don't think they were hiding anything.
    I myself do not have first hand knowledge of things...before my time..and I wouldn't hav been there anyyway.. I have a couple second hand though and they claim it was chinese mafia. Not because of chinese kung fu secrets though. It was money. Bruce owed them AND was cocky. He paid the price for it. Supposedly the people he was messing with had dem mak type abilities. The guy who "touched" him at the dinner table during a heated argument was just a top tier bodyguard. So the story goes. I am only relaying the story.

    Yup...and Alec Baldwin can suck it. RIP to the innocent bystander.

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    We need Baldwin control. Baldwins are dangerous and no one needs a Baldwin. Stop Baldwins! Moms against Baldwins!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrenaline_6 View Post
    Yup...and Alec Baldwin can suck it. RIP to the innocent bystander.
    And yet, explain two bodies, one dead and one wounded?
    Perhaps a single bullet hit both, but I'm betting two shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    The first thing I thought was Brandon Lee, too. In Lee's death, I guess the prop department, wanting to have a close up of a loaded revolver, loaded the gun with rounds that had the powder removed, but they forgot to remove the primer. One of the rounds was fired which caused a squib. Then, in the next scene, they fired the revolver with a blank, which then discharged the stuck round with full pressure, which killed Lee.

    I can only guess that something like that happened here. We'll see. It sucks all around.
    I used to work for the PD that had jurisdiction in this case. That is exactly what happened. When the projectile was fired the actor wasn’t actually aiming at Lee. Instead he was swinging the gun while pointing it in Lee’s direction. Had he pulled the trigger half a second sooner or later in the swing, the projectile would have probably missed Lee. The investigator also told me that the actual shooting of Lee was featured on one of the initial commercial ads that was publicly shown for the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    I have seen a number of videos where stuntmen talk about how common this is on set. It usually doesn't usually end this tragically but apparently it is a disturbingly common occurrence.
    I remember seeing something about the making of Enemy at the Gates, and every morning they would take all the actors out and one of the firearms guys would shoot a pumpkin with a blank cartridge so everyone was reminded daily of how deadly they can still be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappabear View Post
    Damn, I would have thought they had this shit buttoned up. Always wondered how awkward it would be for a real gun gun to point real guns at people and pull the trigger. It would be very awkward for me.

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    Usually people that really have no concept of guns and often anti gun to to boot, like Baldwin. My GF wanted to take a pic of me pointing a gun at the camera she was holding and I must have checked and cleared it three times before willing to do it, and it still didn't feel right and alarms were going off whole time. If I was an actor on set, I'd double check status of the blank firing gun I suspect.
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    Now he knows.

    I hope he Hope's himself



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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    Alec Baldwin has always been a selfish pig and a political enemy of America, once is an accident, twice?
    Come on Twice?
    My first thought, knowing him, was he either lost his temper and thought it would be cool to scare them, or was just being an A hole on set and thought it would be funny. When I heard two people, didn't buy the accident part at all. Finally, being a western of some sort, not even full auto blank firing guns, so trigger pull for each rnd fired. Hmmmm.
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