Alec Baldwin kills someone in movie accident

[WillBrink]

I still say Hollywood (and the media) is the single greatest promoter of violence (especially gun violence), perversion, immorality, and other elements of general discord. It's simply a copout to say they are just making us aware of issues so we can act to remedy as these people make millions.

Even Bill M "gets it"

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

You’re not completely wrong. Anarchy has a tendency to bring its own justice. I always have a hard time reintegrating with society because I’m not used to people looking at me with a look that says they should be dead already. A lot of people wake up with that look in the US, and would not survive adolescence elsewhere.

If I was that person’s father, I would kill Alec Baldwin like it was my job with a lack of hesitancy. With whatever I was driving at that moment, and no sense of guilt. If I was that person’s father. As things sit, I don’t have that cause….Someone does, and I’d never vote to convict if they took a brick to his skull. Doesn’t really matter how brutal, that man (slain person’s father) deserves his day in the sun. Its kind if unique to American justice, that that will not occur.

If we don’t see a return to more normal law enforcement, both on the police, and also prosecution end, I think we will see more of a tribal influence. You’ll only be a safe as how violent people perceive your cousins to be. The reality is that the dissolving of the American family leaves people with very little extended support and protection.

So how long before Baldwin uses his shooting of this woman to push for more gun control? After all these things are so dangerous they can now kill on their own.

So they have gone after ghost guns, maybe since the issue here was that it was supposedly modified is that Baldwin will be against “Franken” guns that have been modified by people. So the law would be is that you can’t actually work on your own guns, because you can make them unsafe..

[titsonritz]

And the tool is charged with involuntary manslaughter, not that it will go anywhere.

https://www.aol.com/alec-baldwin-ind...192932508.html

[WillBrink]

And the tool is charged with involuntary manslaughter, not that it will go anywhere.

https://www.aol.com/alec-baldwin-ind...192932508.html

I'm confused. He was indicted, then un indicted, then re indicted? I don't know if it will stick, but involuntary-manslaughter seems like a charge that could stick. I'd think the armorer deserves more serious charges as it was her actual job to make sure the gun was safe for use.

[SteyrAUG]

I'm confused. He was indicted, then un indicted, then re indicted? I don't know if it will stick, but involuntary-manslaughter seems like a charge that could stick. I'd think the armorer deserves more serious charges as it was her actual job to make sure the gun was safe for use.

Much as I'd like to kick Baldwin in the nuts, he's not a firearms expert or gun wrangler.

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I'm confused. He was indicted, then un indicted, then re indicted? I don't know if it will stick, but involuntary-manslaughter seems like a charge that could stick. I'd think the armorer deserves more serious charges as it was her actual job to make sure the gun was safe for use.

Agree. Actors point guns at other actors countless times while making movies and TV. It's the responsibility of the person handing the gun to an actor to ensure it isn't loaded with live ammo.

[Hush]

Agree. Actors point guns at other actors countless times while making movies and TV. It's the responsibility of the person handing the gun to an actor to ensure it isn't loaded with live ammo.

There is absolutely no reason for live ammo to ever be anywhere near a set. I remain firm Baldwin is an asshole, but an actor verifying a prop gun isn't loaded isn't his responsibility. HOWEVER, as a producer he IS liable. There should be many steps in-between that verify safety before an untrained actor is handed a prop gun. The armorer (purple haired 20 something female) bears the brunt of responsibility.
Go down a conspiracy rabbit hole about the father of the victim...kind of interesting.

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[WillBrink]

Much as I'd like to kick Baldwin in the nuts, he's not a firearms expert or gun wrangler.

Agree. Actors point guns at other actors countless times while making movies and TV. It's the responsibility of the person handing the gun to an actor to ensure it isn't loaded with live ammo.

He should have some civil liabilities due to being the producer, etc, and allowing serious lapses in safety all around apparently. I think his pretending (i.e., lying) he didn't pull the trigger was a large part of his problems there. It's irrelevant. They were practicing a scene, I'd assume he'd be pulling the trigger if the scene involved shooting guns. That's not what made him liable per se. Only Q is, how the F did a live rnd get in that gun that none of the people responsible for preventing such a thing from happening failed to see? Obviously they didn't follow their process. Why? He did produce an unsafe work environment all around that people did complain about.

[mRad]

There is absolutely no reason for live ammo to ever be anywhere near a set. I remain firm Baldwin is an asshole, but an actor verifying a prop gun isn't loaded isn't his responsibility. HOWEVER, as a producer he IS liable. There should be many steps in-between that verify safety before an untrained actor is handed a prop gun. The armorer (purple haired 20 something female) bears the brunt of responsibility.
Go down a conspiracy rabbit hole about the father of the victim...kind of interesting.

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Playing pretend absolves people of pointing a gun at somebody and pulling the trigger?

Won’t be long and that defense could make it to the streets.


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[Hush]

On a movie set, yes absolutely 100%. That's not the actors job, it's the armorers. Multiple industry established safety checks were ignored and violated.

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