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Thread: 1/6 Riot and the Steele Dossier are inexorably linked

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    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar..._146973.html#2

    Interesting theory.

    The electoral votes of at least five states were being challenged — not in a coup, but in a lawful manner also used by Democrats in earlier elections, following the procedures mandated by the Electoral Count Act of 1887. Republican senators and House members had lined up to make the case to the public and their fellow constitutional officers that something was rotten in the states of Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan, and that the election was therefore tainted. But the violence outside resulted in a sharply truncated debate inside that was virtually ignored, if not outright mocked or shamed, by the mainstream media. The riot instantly doomed any chance Trump had of prevailing in his argument that the election was stolen.

    So ask yourself who benefited from the supposed coup at the Capitol. Not Trump. Not the Republicans who had put themselves on the line to support him with evidence of voting irregularities in several states. Cui bono? Who benefits? None other than the very Democrats who for the last year have worked tirelessly to discredit Trump and to find some way to disqualify him from being elected president again in 2024.
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    They are trying to say that the statement that their weren’t any guns at 1/6 is wrong starts with one fact, goes off on tangents, and then uses the lack of evidence as proof.

    One guy from Maryland was found with a gun. That was in the Capitol building. No shots fired by him, not even brandishing it.

    Then they pivot to some other people their that day that had guns off site, but claim that these were used in the riot.

    Then they take it further and a guy driving there on 1/6, who didn’t get their until the next day, was part of the guns at the insurrection.

    Then in the final leap, they say that since few people were arrested and detained, that we’ll never know how many guns were there. That only one was found, none were seen, and no shots fired- but whatever. White supremacists must have guns.

    Actually one more leap was people found with guns in DC around those days. Never mind DCs horrible murder rate and general guns around.

    Oh, and then the leap to ‘weapons’ and deadly weapons- basically anything more lethal than a spoon- to say that all kinds of people are armed.

    And the MSM/DEms wonder why we don’t trust them when they can’t report the facts as they are, and they must twist the truth to fit their narrative.
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    Callin' it now... #RayEppsDidn'tKillHimself
    https://nationalfile.com/epps-sulliv...-keepers-case/

    "The leader of the Oath Keepers and two of the men captured on video urging people to enter or proceed into the U.S. Capitol on January 6 have been subpoenaed by the defense to testify in the government’s case against Kelly Meggs, an Oath Keeper accused of conspiring to storm the Capitol.

    Stewart Rhodes, Ray Epps, and John Sullivan have been subpoenaed to testify at Meggs’ trial in a move defense attorney Jon Moseley told National File he believes will prove his client’s innocence, and will prove the entire prosecution to be politically motivated."

    I hope all these people behind this shitshow, both D and RINO, suffer a horrible pandemic of untreatable asscancer just like the one they are on this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    Oh yes it absolutely was, an insurrection by the seditious terrorists who call themselves the Democratic Party, aided and abetted by the feckless Quislings of the GOP Establishment.
    Well, yea... now that you put it from that point of view. But that has been going on hot and heavy since November 3rd 2016 when Bad Orange Man won the election up to this day... and really further back if you want to be realistic.
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    Are the Dems walking into a 1/6 trap?

    The non stop talk about the 1/6 stuff this week got me thinking. Knowing that the Durham stuff is still out there, and that the Feds had some role in 1/6- either by action or in-action, I can see a path to turn and burn the MSM/Dems on the whole 1/6. It doesn't require that we say it didn't happen.

    Start the narrative that 1/6 is the latest in a long line of anti-Trump political machinations. The Election Fraud in 2020, the deep-state against Trump starting in 2016, and the debacle of 1/6. It is pretty clear that they first one happened- to any objective, rational person. The The election stuff is harder to prove or disprove. THe 1/6 stuff is going to come out, one way or the other- it just depends on how much coverage it gets. That leaves the election issues in the middle.

    If the dems say that all three are complete BS, well we know the Dossier and the 1/6 stuff is going to blow up in their faces. THen you pivot to if the dems/MSM say that all three are not true, but we know 2 of 3 are true, doesn't that mean that there is a pretty good chance that they are lying to you about the election?


    I saw on the talking heads shows that the dems want to pass a law that Trump can run again. Is there anything more un-democratic and banana republic than that? Especially if they haven't convicted Trump of any charges related to un-constitutional activity. It would pass the House. If I were a GOP senator I would just stay out of the issue. Call it what is was- a banana republic move - and let them pass it. Then let SCOTUS strike it down- and then who are the anti-democratic threats? And it would highlight than it isn't democracy that makes us special, it is the respect of individual rights- which they just trampled all over by using 50+1 votes.
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    You won't outvote the corruption.
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    So last night I was watching Trafficked with Mariana van Zeller, S2-EP6, which was on "White Supremacy". It was all in on the entire right's political consternation being based in white nationalism, and they saved 1/6 for the end of the show. They as much as called Enrique Tarrio (FBI Informant) a token POC for the Proud Boys. Her SME for the episode was former FBI SA, Dr. Erroll Southers. What really caught my attention was that he openly admitted they had overwhelming evidence that there was going to be a riot on 1/6, but tried to say the reason effective action wasn't taken was because "white terrorism" doesn't get as much attention as other forms of terrorism.

    Now I know for a fact that DoJ spends more time and effort on white supremacy than any other type of HVE (homegrown violent extremist). About the only thing that comes close is the sovereign citizen threat, which other than the Moorish sovereigns is pretty much a white identity movement in itself. If Tarrio is an informant within the Proud Boys, and Stewart Rhodes is an informant within the Oath Keepers (quite possible), we have to assume by FBI infiltration SOP that there are many more <cough, cough, Ray Epps>. So pretending the United States Capitol failed to take "the threat" seriously is patently absurd. The left knew their "Russian Collusion" narrative had been debunked. They needed 1/6 far worse than the right did.

    We already know the left thinks anyone who disagrees with them is a racist. If you haven't seen S2-EP6 of Trafficked, you should because that's how they will frame us all in the same picture. And if you happen to associate with anyone depicted in that episode (or even secretly empathize with them), understand that you're going to be the Achille's Heel they attack directly. You'd do better to disassociate and stick strictly to the politically relevant issues at hand, which is the erosion of liberties and the Constitution.

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    If this was known of, and if there was a threat, why didn't Pelosi call in for back up as is her job in cases like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    If this was known of, and if there was a threat, why didn't Pelosi call in for back up as is her job in cases like this?
    Arrogance is the cheap and easy answer. The deeper answer is Machiavellianism...
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    Double Tap
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