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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    This is why I often said it would take decades to un-f@#k what Hussein Ali Bama did to our country.
    It will take decades, yes, only if Conservatives get active in local politics and get their asses in the game, otherwise there won’t be any fixing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    Which is why we have the Bill of Rights. Anarchy is not much better than totalitarianism. That's why we're supposed to have a balanced government.
    We’re WAY out of balance right now. The federal government is a hydra headed monster, with the added technological break through a of this century- they are a juggernaut working against us.

    We need to gut 90% of the federal government.

    I do believe we need minimum levels of federal law enforcement, but there are WAY more LEO’s currently than we should ever have.

    The cash cow that is the war on drugs has grown LE to unprecedented levels.

    Lots of things need fixed and some need to be torn down altogether.
    We interrupt this programme to bring you an important news bulletin: the suspect in the Happy Times All-Girl Glee Club slaying has fled the scene and has managed to elude the police. He is armed and dangerous, and has been spotted in the West Side area, armed with a meat cleaver in one hand and his genitals in the other...

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    Quote Originally Posted by THCDDM4 View Post
    We’re WAY out of balance right now. The federal government is a hydra headed monster, with the added technological break through a of this century- they are a juggernaut working against us.

    We need to gut 90% of the federal government.

    I do believe we need minimum levels of federal law enforcement, but there are WAY more LEO’s currently than we should ever have.

    The cash cow that is the war on drugs has grown LE to unprecedented levels.

    Lots of things need fixed and some need to be torn down altogether.
    Agreed. Federal law enforcement should mostly concentrate on the following:

    -Combating organized crime and terrorism (actual terrorism).
    -Securing the border.
    -Assisting local law enforcement with multi-state crimes.
    -Organizing the flow of intelligence and evidence among different agencies.
    -Providing material support to local and state agencies as requested.
    -Protecting federal assets such as currency (among other things).
    -Protecting federal officials and property.

    Unfortunately, Fed. LE agencies have their hands in EVERYTHING. The FBI really needs to be disbanded, as does the ATF.
    Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who do not.-Ben Franklin

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    Mayorkas obvously needs to be investigated as during his interviews by Congress, he either had no idea and read off of a prepared script, or he simply had no idea.
    I'm not sure how you run the DOJ and consistantly not know whats going on with the DOJ and it's daily operations, or someone else is in charge and didn't brief him very well. Really that guy needs to be given a bankers box and be told to clean out his desk.
    At this point I'm guessing pulling all the ticks off of the Coon Dog of State might be difficult, but barring Jesus coming back and removing them like money changers from the Temple, they better Hope and Pray that Trump doesn't get reelected, because he will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THCDDM4 View Post
    It will take decades, yes, only if Conservatives get active in local politics and get their asses in the game, otherwise there won’t be any fixing it.
    Here is the REAL problem. The first guy who tries to actually fix it, is gonna put the entire country on a budget and HE will be the one to take the blame for the lean years and cutbacks of free shit that most people view as their earned free shit.

    Long before Obama finished school we had a national deficit, he just ran it harder into the red.

    If anyone want to look at the numbers.

    https://www.thebalance.com/us-defici...more%20rows%20

    Deficit to GDP ratio is the key number and we started screwing the pooch in 1932 with Hoover at 4.5%.

    In 1938 we were at .01% but that was mostly because we were no longer spending anything. By 1939 we were back up to 3%. In 1943 defense spending had us at 26.9%. By 1952 we were back down to .4%.

    In 1964 the economy was so strong that almost nobody felt LBJs war on poverty which gave us a .9% ratio. By contrast the moon landing was so expensive the 1968 ratio was up to 2.7%.But the really big numbers didn't return until 1983 when a 10% unemployment rate put us at 5.7%.

    We didn't really pull that off again until 2008 when bailouts got us up to 3.1% and then the Stimulus act got us all the way to 9.8% in 2009.

    In 2017 the Trump Tax Act got us back down to 3.4%. 2019 complete with a government shutdown had us at 4.6% but the impressive number is the covid year of 2020 which put as at 14.4%, even spending the Russians into oblivion in the 80s never got us close to that number and Reagans "voodoo economics" went from 2.5% in 1981 to 3.0% in 1988 with 4.9% being a high water spending mark in 1985 with the second year of increased defense spending.

    So Covid / Biden haven't quite got us as high as the cost of WWII in 1943 but we are more than half way there. Anything more than 5% is a really big "everyone feels this" number. For anyone wondering, the worst year of the Great Depression was 1934 at 5.4% and then 1936 at 5.1%.

    Every single one of us experienced much worse in 2020 when the ratio was at 14.4%. Can't blame this shit on Obama, his numbers were 3.1% in 2008 to 3.1% in 2016. His highest number was 9.8% in 2009 when he bailed out wall street banks and numbers stayed high until 2012 with a 6.7% ratio which was a huge number and the so called fiscal cliff. Up to that point, these were the highest numbers anyone had seen since WWII when we were running a 20%+ ratio in 1943 to 1945.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    I wouldn't go that far. There are a lot of FLEAs that are good and needed. Border Patrol, of course, HSI for investigating transnational crime and terrorism, DSS for the State Department, Secret Service for the president and the treasury. Plus, the Capitol Police and US Park Police do needed work for their jurisdictions. It's mostly the FBI and ATF that are the problem.
    +1. I’ve dealt with some good ICE agents and US Postal Inspectors over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdWatcher View Post
    +1. I’ve dealt with some good ICE agents and US Postal Inspectors over the years.
    Define “good.”

    Most good agents, when fed crap by their superiors, will follow orders.

    It is hard to argue we don’t have WAY too much federal LE and the F B I is probably the worst of the bunch.

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    I can not speak to the character of any Federal LE folks, but I will say the number of Federal entities with police powers is frightening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    Mayorkas obvously needs to be investigated as during his interviews by Congress, he either had no idea and read off of a prepared script, or he simply had no idea.
    I'm not sure how you run the DOJ and consistantly not know whats going on with the DOJ and it's daily operations, or someone else is in charge and didn't brief him very well. Really that guy needs to be given a bankers box and be told to clean out his desk.
    Mayorkas? He isn’t the head of DOJ… DHS.

    The DOJ is headed by the Attorney General… who currently is Garland.

    I work for DHS (CBP specifically), and Mayorkas is hated by field officers. I mean, the BP horse thing where certain officials felt they needed to talk about whipping Haitians… when the person who took the pictures stated that did not happen. It could have been handled very differently, in a way to back those agents but assure the country we will investigate any potential wrongdoing. But he pretty much placed the blame on those agents, until they prove their innocence.

    Mayorkas is a textbook definition of a politician. Nobody in DHS likes him… so he attempts to buy us back. Labor Day… the good DHS secretary gave all DHS employees a free shift of admin leave. Columbus Day (specifically called the October 11th holiday, by the way)… 2 hours of admin leave. Veterans Day… 3 hours of admin leave. And Thanksgiving… another entire shift of admin leave.

    The first one was clear… you get a day off between Labor Day and the end of the calendar year. But the others were very muddy in their instructions. I know half of the port that were told they couldn’t take the Columbus Day one for various reasons that management decided was implied with the announcement. And the union had to fight for the Veterans Day one for those reasons. Thanksgiving… it seems to be as murky as the others, so unless the union fights for it… doubt I’d get it.

    So, while I’d agree Garland is lost in DOJ, Mayorkas is a shady DHS secretary. And still… nobody likes him.

    Quote Originally Posted by HKGuns View Post
    Define “good.”

    Most good agents, when fed crap by their superiors, will follow orders.

    It is hard to argue we don’t have WAY too much federal LE and the F B I is probably the worst of the bunch.
    I’m not taking offense to that… but will call you out on both points.

    There are plenty of good Federal L/E, who would push back when warranted. I have a coworker who refused to ask vaccination status/refuse people who are not vaccinated (foreign nationals coming over for non-essential reasons… per the current shitshow guidance that Biden put out). He felt it went against the constitution to ask. While I disagree, when you look at other diseases in somewhat recent history, he was also in the group that refused to get the vaccine. Most of us all feel that if those officers get fired, there will be months of legal fights, but they will likely get paid (back pay and damages) and their job back. However, the officer who said he wouldn’t follow those orders… he likely won’t. It’s hard to argue that when the first set of Grounds of Inadmissibility is related to health (§212(a)(1)).

    Now, let’s say good old Biden decides to make a mandate that all persons coming into the US are vaccinated… to include US citizens. And he decides that he wants us to turn US citizens away for that reason (could easily be done under Customs law; actually would be illegal for me to do under Immigration law unless I have a good belief that person got their citizenship thru fraud). You would see majority of officers say not just no… but “hell, no!” I’d put it at more of we would just see a US passport or other document, and not ask… than to keep someone out of their own country. Might seem like we’re just a bunch of Federal L/E morons, but majority of us actually take our jobs seriously.

    Another example that is more locally specific, but we had a manager who directed us to cuff all persons who matched any NCIC hit… no ifs/ands/buts. A few of the officers refused, myself included, because there are a number of reasons not to do it… especially with all the “deescalation” training CBP/DHS is putting out. If we are supposed to decide whether or not someone is admissible to the US… we don’t have the ability to make a judgement call like this? Basically, he was taking away our discretion… and I was threatened with reprimand if I didn’t do it. Had a situation come up, which neither myself or the other officer could come up with a legit reason to cuff the guy… and I didn’t.

    Are we not good officers? Because we pushed back when it wasn’t right, and eventually got his guidance rescinded for one that didn’t put the traveling public in such a bad spot… 9 times out of 10, for zero reason. Just asking because we were fed crap for it… even yelled at for our decision… and didn’t just “follow orders.”

    For way too much Federal L/E… I guess you are not that familiar with the southern border. BP and CBP are well understaffed down there… to the point that they pull people from the northern border (which isn’t that much better staffed) and airports/seaports for temporary deployment down there whenever a migrant caravan is known to be coming. BP and CBP is used mainly for a foot in the door Federal L/E job, and then transferring to another agency… which is part of the reason for a high turnover rate.

    And that doesn’t consider probably about 30-40% of us (combined CBP and BP, but a better chunk of that is BP) who may be forced off the frontline because of the vaccine mandate. Or the consideration that CBP is going to have a large amount of retirements in 2028… mainly senior officers from legacy agencies (USCS and INS)… because of L/E retirement. If Congress decides to allow those officers to buy back non-L/E time in, even sooner.

    For those who get the reference, the border is going to be looking like an episode of South Park… just minus Butters bringing Mexicans back to Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mRad View Post
    The FBI….

    They just may be the most evil organization in the country.


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    You are forgetting about that one alphabet agency that Obama created to wage war with the American people. You know the one who bought billions of rounds of ammo…

    To think, all those red flags that have happened since Obummer, really was, what it looked like.

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