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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I'm assuming those extra weight items are on your person. Also is it a spare bolt or an entire bolt carrier group? Reason I ask is I rarely see a bolt fail but I've seen carrier keys go bad a handful of times.
    just a spare bolt and firing pin, bcg would never fit in a grip
    I've yet to have a key fail on me but have broken bolts and worn rings. High round count shooting schedule should see bolts go way before a gas key. I only use AO precision, Colt and FN bcgs. Not saying the key can't or won't go but it's unlikely if properly torqued, correct spec screw and staked as it should be. Those 3 have never let me down. worn rings and camp pin are more likely than the key in my experience.
    Inside my grip the bolt, pin, lube, and battery all fit nicely in a ziploc sandwich baggy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUTGERS95 View Post
    just a spare bolt and firing pin, bcg would never fit in a grip
    I've yet to have a key fail on me but have broken bolts and worn rings. High round count shooting schedule should see bolts go way before a gas key. I only use AO precision, Colt and FN bcgs. Not saying the key can't or won't go but it's unlikely if properly torqued, correct spec screw and staked as it should be. Those 3 have never let me down. worn rings and camp pin are more likely than the key in my experience.
    Inside my grip the bolt, pin, lube, and battery all fit nicely in a ziploc sandwich baggy.
    Most keys that failed probably were not staked correctly. Lots of half assed builds out there.

    Ziplock bag sounds like a nice rescue kit. I have a "spare parts" pouch in one of those pockets on my vest. Mostly springs and some FCG parts, I think I have a bolt in there as well. In the past whenever I've done a workshop or class, I usually bring a back up rifle. So far never needed it.

    Only thing I've ever had fail on me are magazines and that is because I used to run USGI's until they died. But even that didn't happen very often, I still have a dozen pmags still in the plastic as backups. Other than that all of the stoppages I've ever experienced were shooter induced, meaning I contributed to the problem like keeping ejection port too close to barricade or similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Most keys that failed probably were not staked correctly. Lots of half assed builds out there.

    Ziplock bag sounds like a nice rescue kit. I have a "spare parts" pouch in one of those pockets on my vest. Mostly springs and some FCG parts, I think I have a bolt in there as well. In the past whenever I've done a workshop or class, I usually bring a back up rifle. So far never needed it.

    Only thing I've ever had fail on me are magazines and that is because I used to run USGI's until they died. But even that didn't happen very often, I still have a dozen pmags still in the plastic as backups. Other than that all of the stoppages I've ever experienced were shooter induced, meaning I contributed to the problem like keeping ejection port too close to barricade or similar.
    buttstock mag pouches are great to keep stuff on hand always and those Israeli slings have pockets as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUTGERS95 View Post
    buttstock mag pouches are great to keep stuff on hand always and those Israeli slings have pockets as well.
    I have one of those old BH Urban Assault Vests and honestly once I fill the mag pouches, I have 4 or 5 more pockets doing nothing. And I'd rather carry the weight on my person than the rifle.
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    my body failed before my firearms did, which will probably be true for most of us.
    - Either you're part of the problem or you're part of the solution or you're just part of the landscape - Sam (Robert DeNiro) in, "Ronin" -

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    It's always funny to me to see the benches of guys stripping off 8 lbs. of accessories after completing phase one of any given shooting class / course. Most of my rifles are sling, dot, light and done.
    No laser aimer or silencer??? And to think you call yourself a gun enthusiast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by okie View Post
    No laser aimer or silencer??? And to think you call yourself a gun enthusiast!
    I try not to crutch on lasers, I have a ton of suppressors. Indoors yes, outdoors maybe not. When you run and gun for a couple hours shit gets heavy.

    Been a few times I started with a HALO on my rifle but after phase one the suppressor ended up on my vest.
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    This is why I can’t get behind pistol red dots and rifles without BUIS. IMHO, Red dots are still far too fiddly to be mounted on a non-gamer pistols (reciprocating slides, battery issues, moisture issues, screws, glue, etc).
    Let those who are fond of blaming and finding fault, while they sit safely at home, ask, ‘Why did you not do thus and so?’I wish they were on this voyage; I well believe that another voyage of a different kind awaits them.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Bell View Post
    This is why I can’t get behind pistol red dots and rifles without BUIS. IMHO, Red dots are still far too fiddly to be mounted on a non-gamer pistols (reciprocating slides, battery issues, moisture issues, screws, glue, etc).
    really like my Eos, but I don't think I could run a rifle without BUIS.
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    At close range, where most self defense situations occur, I think you'd be surprised how well you can actually do without any sights at all on both pistol and rifle.

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