Your guns are going to fail

[WillieThom]

Finally puts enough rounds through primary and secondary firearms to make sure everything’s good to go. Realizes things aren’t g2g….

It happens.

Trust but verify.

[okie]

Finally puts enough rounds through primary and secondary firearms to make sure everything’s good to go. Realizes things aren’t g2g….

It happens.

Trust but verify.

It surprised me though because the Glock I've had for a long time, and the AR is one most recent of many. The Glock had quite a few rounds through it (but not like to the point where it was needing TLC or anything), and the AR had enough through it that I had deemed it good to go.

I still have zero idea what's going on with the trigger in the AR. But googling it has revealed a bunch of other people with the exact same issue with triggers of that certain brand that shall remain nameless. In any case, I cleaned and inspected it really well, and I can't see any reason why it would be doing this all of the sudden. I don't know if the springs fatigued or what. None of the surfaces look worn or chipped or anything. It's a complete mystery. I've never had a milspec trigger fail me though so I guess I know what to do. Not looking forward to the grittiness but it sure beats random bursts. I was afraid the neighbors were going to report me lol.

[Diamondback]

It surprised me though because the Glock I've had for a long time, and the AR is one most recent of many. The Glock had quite a few rounds through it (but not like to the point where it was needing TLC or anything), and the AR had enough through it that I had deemed it good to go.

I still have zero idea what's going on with the trigger in the AR. But googling it has revealed a bunch of other people with the exact same issue with triggers of that certain brand that shall remain nameless. In any case, I cleaned and inspected it really well, and I can't see any reason why it would be doing this all of the sudden. I don't know if the springs fatigued or what. None of the surfaces look worn or chipped or anything. It's a complete mystery. I've never had a milspec trigger fail me though so I guess I know what to do. Not looking forward to the grittiness but it sure beats random bursts. I was afraid the neighbors were going to report me lol.

Try an ALG QMS or ACT, or one of the similar "milspec derived but refined" versions?

[okie]

Try an ALG QMS or ACT, or one of the similar "milspec derived but refined" versions?

Probably okay but it's stock Colt for me from here on out. I just don't have the ammo to find all the gremlins out there, and who knows if or when prices will return to normal.

[turnburglar]

Buying "tier 1" manufacturers is nice; but testing and verifying yourself is paramount.

I was in the AF and even though I wasn't a flyer or maintainer; I promise you those guys didn't let their ego's rest on the prestige of a company like Boeing, Northrup, or Lockheed. Instead they took their shit apart, inspected everything, and kept detailed service records. If you treat an AR like a plane you will never have a problem regardless of brand name.

I run a lot of franken guns that have many PSA parts. I dont consider a gun GTG until it has at least a case of ammo through it. I have had 2 guns that wouldn't run right. One was due to less than $25 in out of spec parts that where replaced in 2 minutes and the gun has never had a hiccup since. The other gun required a gunsmith to work their magic even though it went back to the manufacturer like 3 times. Since the gunsmith it has also been flawless. In my experience if a gun is gonna be an issue it shows up very quickly. Everything else just runs for thousands of rounds flawlessly.

[pag23]

I keep Glocks stock except for sights...but I also check the tightness yearly if shooting a particular gun a lot and I use blue threadlocker...

[Inkslinger]

Of course your guns will fail. Everything mechanical can/will malfunction or fail. Quality components and correct assembly reduces but does not eliminate the possibility. If a F1 car can experience malfunctions and failure, so can your rifle, regardless of what components are used or who produced it.

[Caduceus]

N of 1, I had a glock sight come loose during a class. I caught it and ended up using the instructor's Glock for the remainder.

Gen 4 glock 23, if it matters.

Also had an AR that choked on steel case during a class. It's no longer in my rotation... but I also don't feed my rifles Tula anymore. Yes, I'm aware that it should be OK.

[flenna]

I'm an oem kind of guy. Don't know if that's better or not but I can't be bothered diddling with firearms, or anything really. It either works for me straight from the factory or I don't buy it.

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That’s me. Other than sights, lights and (sometimes) furniture I don’t do anything else to my SD guns. Never had a malfunction caused by anything other than crappy ammo or a bad magazine. But maybe I am just lucky.

[mRad]

I’ve had sights fly off many guns. Makes me laugh when I hear how fragile red dots are, but only irons are durable. This includes Glocks, Sigs, CZs, and 1911s. Haven’t lost an RMR, yet.

I had an aftermarket Glock trigger break and become useless at 20,000-25,000 rounds. The dingus thing broke and wouldn’t allow me to pull the trigger back far enough to fire.

I had a top tier AR trigger go down in the first 500 rounds. It wasn’t Geissele but one known to be “better”.

I had an AR get knocked off a bench and bend a BUIS to where it was unusable. The T1 on the rifle maintained its zero.

I’ve had chambers get gunked up by steel case poly coated ammo. It ran the steel but the brass would hang up when fired after it…extractors would rip the rim right off leaving the case in the chamber.

I’ve had primers blow on cheap mil-spec ammo and land in the trigger, requiring breaking the gun down.

I’ve had bolt lugs shear off completely during the later part of life cycle, also landing in the trigger putting the gun down until it could be broken down.

I’ve had barrels give up the ghost and suddenly start key holing.

I’ve had precision rifles randomly miss the target by feet at extended range, but it would still maintain accuracy at 100 yards.

I’ve had expensive match triggers in bolt-guns freeze up from minimal dust.

I’ve had AICS magazines needing feed lip tweaking from being dropped in a match. I’ve also seen dust take down pistol mags.

I’ve had bolt actions extraction angle change to where they would bump scope knobs and land emptied back in the action.

Yup, vet your stuff and stay on top of replacing it before service life is finished. It can make for a very bad day. Also, don’t **** with your guns unless you are going to have time to put in the rounds to ensure it functions. For carbines and pistols, you should change anything with an unknown unless you’re going to kill a thousand rounds or more through it before trusting your life to it.


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