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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron3 View Post

    You've got alot of emotions spewing. Try to condense it into some kind of rational thought to make it worth reading.
    Hey now, easy. I love me some Honu posts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honu View Post
    I had heard of that stuff but its not quite how you wrote it IMHO

    bellamy DIED 2 yrs before hitler even rose to power !!!

    the salute was from 1892 hitler would have been 3 yrs old ! actually was a military salute then when saying to the flag you raise your hand toward flag
    they also did change that to over the heart WWII for all because of that hitler thing so maybe hitler copied it ?

    why in school
    its about loving the country you live in not hating it and some discipline in the class and school
    if you hate the pledge you could stand up and just stand there but its about stopping and listening and being quiet and respect etc...

    socialist from 120 yrs go is not the same at all ?
    Not to get too far off topic, Hitler, or some early nazi, stole the Roman salute as well as the Eagle standard.

    But yeah, the "pledge" is completely socialist. Then sometime in the 50s they added "under god" to make it religiously socialist. Either way they can take that crap walking. You don't have to pledge anything to be a good American, you simply need to respect the Constitution. Those other socialists countries, including Germany's "national socialists", all required some kind of BS pledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Not to get too far off topic, Hitler, or some early nazi, stole the Roman salute as well as the Eagle standard.

    But yeah, the "pledge" is completely socialist. Then sometime in the 50s they added "under god" to make it religiously socialist. Either way they can take that crap walking. You don't have to pledge anything to be a good American, you simply need to respect the Constitution. Those other socialists countries, including Germany's "national socialists", all required some kind of BS pledge.
    yeah the nazi were good at stealing

    agree you do not need to my thought in school would be more for routing discipline also I do think to many kids are TAUGHT to hate our country anymore ? that has nothing to do with pledge just to do with how bad teachers are today and MSM and social media

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honu View Post
    yeah the nazi were good at stealing

    agree you do not need to my thought in school would be more for routing discipline also I do think to many kids are TAUGHT to hate our country anymore ? that has nothing to do with pledge just to do with how bad teachers are today and MSM and social media
    Yeah, the only reason they would have the pledge today, is so kids could make a point of abstaining from it so they could virtue signal to the world all the evils they think it represents. Ironically if you remove the "under god", it will be damn near the same pledge everyone will be forced to recite if we ever do go full blown socialism. And anyone who abstains will end up in reeducation camps.
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    We need to change the mindset that once someone stops shooting and puts their hands up they can no longer be engaged. If you KNOW hes the killer and SEE him in the act, there should be no surrender and no quarter given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hush View Post
    We need to change the mindset that once someone stops shooting and puts their hands up they can no longer be engaged. If you KNOW hes the killer and SEE him in the act, there should be no surrender and no quarter given.
    That's not a mindset, it's established case law from SCOTUS. As soon as the threat stops, the ability to use deadly force stops.

    See Graham v Connor and Tennessee v Garner.
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    Yeah reckon a lot change a few words many things can go sideways
    Also how we think about it
    Ironic will be on the FORCED free will you wont have

    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Yeah, the only reason they would have the pledge today, is so kids could make a point of abstaining from it so they could virtue signal to the world all the evils they think it represents. Ironically if you remove the "under god", it will be damn near the same pledge everyone will be forced to recite if we ever do go full blown socialism. And anyone who abstains will end up in reeducation camps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hush View Post
    We need to change the mindset that once someone stops shooting and puts their hands up they can no longer be engaged. If you KNOW hes the killer and SEE him in the act, there should be no surrender and no quarter given.
    YUP end the threat !

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    We have chased guys who, when they knew there was no way out, would surrender under the bright lights of a gas station in front of the cameras so we couldn't administer the ass whoopin they deserved.

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    Creepy little ****er, School Officials Met With Crumbley the Day Before the Shooting & the Morning of the Shooting for ‘Concerning’ Behavior​.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ttack-day.html
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