School shooting - 3 dead - Here we go again

[WillBrink]

I heard that Tate Myre the 16 year old football player was killed trying to disarm the shooter, there is already an effort underway to rename the football stadium after him. Also the father of the shooter bought the Sig 2022 four days before the shooting.

Another parent of the year award winner?

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

He had been suspended 2 days prior, came in with a deer head placed it on a table in the common area and then started shooting. 2 deputies engaged within 5 minutes of 911 call and he gave up and lawyered up.

Sounds like he was going for popular kids, 1 football players and at least one, possibly 2 cheerleader killed.

Well, my kids won't be shot...

He’s lost a son and a wife, but he can’t imagine the grief?

Biden took a lot of justified hits for his empathy over deaths, and especially violent military deaths, because of his experience with Beua. I guess they got ahold of him and he is on strict protocol to not bring him up and try to empathize, just sympathise.

Another parent of the year award winner?

That he bought a gun? Granted, access by a 16yo isn't great, not even legal here in CO, but how many people here have said that they had access to guns as school kids- if not took guns to school to hunt before class?

Handgun, so no AWB implication. Gun control is at its least popular in a generation. And it gave cover to let Dumb and Dumber Cuomo to have Xmas together.

I feel for the parents of the kid who tried to take him out. I know my son would attempt it because of who he is, he thinks he understands guns, and he thinks he invincible.

[WillBrink]

That he bought a gun? Granted, access by a 16yo isn't great, not even legal here in CO, but how many people here have said that they had access to guns as school kids- if not took guns to school to hunt before class?

I used the "?" as I don't have all the facts yet, but what appears clear so far is his kid had serious behavior issues and from what I'm gathering so far, seems like parents that didn't know their kid very well. That as much as anything, seems to a theme among some of these events. These parents told junior not to talk to the police etc. Had I done something a fraction as bad, my mother would have bashed me over the head, tied me up, dumped me on the front yard, and told the po po to remove the garbage from her site. Ok, slight exaggeration, but not that much...

I also had access to firearms in the summer, and one summer I shot out some windows with my bb gun, and it was gone for years, or until I "matured the F up enough to be responsible" as i recall. Another POV also, Brooklyn in the 70s/80s, there was no lack of guns around, but there was also a code where you didn't settle such things with guns, and it was looked down on if you did. The two NYC cops who worked at my high school, which was a tough place, didn't take any guff, and it was your a$$ if you brought a weapon to school and or decided to show them what a tough guy you were. So, crime, beefs, etc tended to happen outside of school, some times just down the block, but rarely in school.

So what we can say as those old enough to remember the fact it is not, nor ever was, about access to guns per se but parenting is, I tend to look to the parents/parenting for answers to such an event first, then their general environment and other supports around them.

My point: There's no way in hell his parents where first alerted to the fact they had seriously f-d up kid unitl this event, yet the kid had access to a recently purchased handgun.

The tool used is obviously not the issue here.

[Ron3]

no more God ! a huge part for many the base of whats OK in life not you can do anything think anything identify as anything there is NO accountability there is NOTHING after this etc... not all believe but that is a big part for many and not all so dont go off on this

no more pledge of allegiance kids today hate the country they live in !
no more truth ! such as not all kids are racist by birth and yeah black kids can be racist spanish can be racist BUT its a tiny part of life and society ! and YOU WANT THEM to be free to be racist so you can see it and avoid them !
no more accountability for anything !
blame trump and whites and conservatives !
blame global warming !
blame someone else !
girls can just SAY they are a boy and you are told to believe that and bend to them (flip that to)
also everyone is special everyone gets a trophy lowest get screwed on learning a life lesson to work hard or learn you might not be good at this !
NOBODY is told to work harder instead everything is brought down to the lowest so even the top folks can get screwed learning why work when its handed to you
never ever punish anyone for doing wrong instead say ITS OK its something or someone's fault not yours !


sure many can think of more we can go on and on the way were are with the left lets normalize pedophiles ! yeah thats going to work out well !
new school uniforms NAKED ! including teachers
when we have grade school teachers telling kids to perform gay sex acts on each other practice these ! it's not just the kids it's the teachers and the administration and the school board to blame for so much of this !!!!

how often do you hear of this happening at a strict private school or a christian school ? unless it was the new kid put in way late and they have no discipline ? cause they do not follow what current culture is pushing I reckon !

Gay?
Global warming?
Naked?
Racism?

You've got alot of emotions spewing. Try to condense it into some kind of rational thought to make it worth reading.

[prepare]

2 dummies and the dumbest one is now dead.

[SteyrAUG]

I heard that Tate Myre the 16 year old football player was killed trying to disarm the shooter, there is already an effort underway to rename the football stadium after him. Also the father of the shooter bought the Sig 2022 four days before the shooting.

Obviously we need to wait for the facts, but sounds like we lost another good one who probably knew he was done but stepped in anyway.

[Disciple]

2 dummies and the dumbest one is now dead.

Wrong thread?

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I liked the Sheriff that spoke today. He said that he didn't see any evidence on video of anyone fighting back, we'll see. Lot's of footage it sounds like.

Is the kid 15 or 17?

The shooter didn't knock on a door, that was an undercover LEO- reported by Sheriff.

The previous 'warning' was early Nov, was from out of state, and had nothing to do with this incident. The shooter has no previous disciplinary actions, except for the day before and the day of the shooting. The parents were in for a meeting in the morning (10am?) and the shooting started at 1pm.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

2 dummies and the dumbest one is now dead.

Please let this be a cross post about the demise of one of the Cuomo brothers, preferably a weightlifting accident with Fredo.

[Honu]

Something you might find interesting is the pledge was written by a socialist named Francis Bellamy and the salute was the right arm raised like the salute to hitler.

In addition to being a secular propagandist, he masqueraded as a Baptist minister until the congregation caught on to what he was going on about and kicked him to the curb.

I had heard of that stuff but its not quite how you wrote it IMHO

bellamy DIED 2 yrs before hitler even rose to power !!!

the salute was from 1892 hitler would have been 3 yrs old ! actually was a military salute then when saying to the flag you raise your hand toward flag
they also did change that to over the heart WWII for all because of that hitler thing so maybe hitler copied it ?

why in school
its about loving the country you live in not hating it and some discipline in the class and school
if you hate the pledge you could stand up and just stand there but its about stopping and listening and being quiet and respect etc...

socialist from 120 yrs go is not the same at all ?

Much of Bellamy’s activism was in response to a dramatic increase in U.S. immigration that took place during his lifetime.

Bellamy and other social gospel advocates anticipated that a “well-organized and patriotic public education system” would inculcate newcomers with American ideals and values.