Buying stripped lower, can it be pistol or rifle?

**Pappabear** · 12-02-21, 13:26

I understood if you buy a rifle lower, it can't be a pistol lower. But what if its a stripped lower?

PB

**ViniVidivici** · 12-02-21, 13:50

A stripped lower will always be a "other" on the 4473, and therefore can be built into either.

**titsonritz** · 12-02-21, 13:53

Originally Posted by ViniVidivici

A stripped lower will always be a "other" on the 4473, and therefore can be built into either.

Spot on.

**DG23** · 12-05-21, 09:03

Originally Posted by ViniVidivici

A stripped lower will always be a "other" on the 4473, and therefore can be built into either.

Depends on how the dealer writes it up on the 4473. Very wise to ask first...

Example: When my kid was 20 he bought his first stripped lower. Dealer transferred it as a 'rifle' - THAT is legal. Would not have been legal to transfer a 'pistol' to him at that age.

**Disciple** · 12-05-21, 12:07

Originally Posted by DG23

Example: When my kid was 20 he bought his first stripped lower. Dealer transferred it as a 'rifle' - THAT is legal. Would not have been legal to transfer a 'pistol' to him at that age.

That contradicts what is written in the fourth thread I linked, and this ATF open letter: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/070709openletter.pdf

**DG23** · 12-05-21, 19:45

Originally Posted by Disciple

That contradicts what is written in the fourth thread I linked, and this ATF open letter: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/070709openletter.pdf

Guess what happens when jr takes his buffer tube and buttstock WITH HIM when he goes to pick up the lower...

Takes 30 seconds to screw that tube in there and slide the rifle stock on it. That dealer sold a rifle - Not a frame. Makes no difference if the thing is 'complete' and functional or not so long as that stock is half ass on there.

**Disciple** · 12-05-21, 20:50

As I understand the law that is still not a rifle. It has to be mated to an upper or it is a receiver.

**Renegade** · 12-05-21, 21:14

Originally Posted by DG23

Guess what happens when jr takes his buffer tube and buttstock WITH HIM when he goes to pick up the lower...

Takes 30 seconds to screw that tube in there and slide the rifle stock on it. That dealer sold a rifle - Not a frame. Makes no difference if the thing is 'complete' and functional or not so long as that stock is half ass on there.

Still not a handgun or long gun, so it xfers as other.

Obviously nobody has read 4473 Instructions since my prior post.....

**Five_Point_Five_Six** · 12-05-21, 22:50

Originally Posted by DG23

Guess what happens when jr takes his buffer tube and buttstock WITH HIM when he goes to pick up the lower...

Takes 30 seconds to screw that tube in there and slide the rifle stock on it. That dealer sold a rifle - Not a frame. Makes no difference if the thing is 'complete' and functional or not so long as that stock is half ass on there.

I'm not sure it's possible for you to be any more wrong than you've been in your posts in this thread but I'm kinda curious to see how far you'll double down and go.

**MistWolf** · 12-06-21, 01:14

Originally Posted by DG23

Guess what happens when jr takes his buffer tube and buttstock WITH HIM when he goes to pick up the lower...

Takes 30 seconds to screw that tube in there and slide the rifle stock on it. That dealer sold a rifle - Not a frame. Makes no difference if the thing is 'complete' and functional or not so long as that stock is half ass on there.

Even with a rifle stock installed, a lower is transferred as an OTHER. Remove the stock before installing a pistol upper and your good to go.