Successful e-file form4?

[ap1220]

For silencer shop purchases, the dealer “prepares” the eForm 4, then the buyer has to certify the questions and check a box and enter their own eForm username and PIN. This is done in a window in SS web portal that is actually a remote virtual machine loading ATF page. If filing as an individual, that must be done in person at the dealer. If filing as a trust, SS allows for both the dealer and buyer to be in the same virtual machine and the responsible person can certify remotely (but both the dealer and the person are doing it simultaneously). Right after the buyer inputs username and PIN, the dealer inputs their PIN. Then it’s certified and submitted.

Yup. I received notification that I will be resubmitting my E-form 4 this week after it was denied through some mistake(I blame the ATF, because its their fault this is an issue at all), about 2 weeks ago from my submission the first week of Jan.

I'll give an update after me and my dealer complete it.

[ap1220]

For silencer shop purchases, the dealer “prepares” the eForm 4, then the buyer has to certify the questions and check a box and enter their own eForm username and PIN. This is done in a window in SS web portal that is actually a remote virtual machine loading ATF page. If filing as an individual, that must be done in person at the dealer. If filing as a trust, SS allows for both the dealer and buyer to be in the same virtual machine and the responsible person can certify remotely (but both the dealer and the person are doing it simultaneously). Right after the buyer inputs username and PIN, the dealer inputs their PIN. Then it’s certified and submitted.

Yup. I received notification that I will be resubmitting my E-form 4 this week after it was denied through some mistake(I blame the ATF, because its their fault this is an issue at all), about 2 weeks ago from my submission the first week of Jan.

I'll give an update after me and my dealer complete it.

[georgeib]

Yup. I received notification that I will be resubmitting my E-form 4 this week after it was denied through some mistake(I blame the ATF, because its their fault this is an issue at all), about 2 weeks ago from my submission the first week of Jan.

I'll give an update after me and my dealer complete it.

What was the mistake?

[ap1220]

What was the mistake?

The mistake must have been the dealers using the transferee’s usernames and PIN to process the efiled forms. So, moving forward, certification is done by logging through your account, then notify your dealer and they log into the atf website. From here you certify with your stuff rather than the transferor erroneously using yours.

I completed mine today with my FFL, and it has been resubmitted.

[sdacbob]

I can't even get logged on to e-Form. Stopped by my Class 3 yesterday and they told me I'm the 3 person that day complaining the same thing.

[Bret]

The mistake must have been the dealers using the transferee’s usernames and PIN to process the efiled forms. So, moving forward, certification is done by logging through your account, then notify your dealer and they log into the atf website. From here you certify with your stuff rather than the transferor erroneously using yours.

I'm confused by what you've said here. Today my dealer did a Form 4 to transfer an SBR to me. I stood right with her as she, actually we, went through each step. I entered my credit card information when the payment screen popped up. At one point I had to enter my user ID and pin number. After I did that, she had to enter her pin number. I'm assuming her user id wasn't required because she was already logged in. Eventually she got to a screen that said it was successfully submitted. She checked her email and the email for the fingerprint cards was already there. Later I checked my email and found an email with the submitted Form 4 attached.

[ap1220]

I'm confused by what you've said here. Today my dealer did a Form 4 to transfer an SBR to me. I stood right with her as she, actually we, went through each step. I entered my credit card information when the payment screen popped up. At one point I had to enter my user ID and pin number. After I did that, she had to enter her pin number. I'm assuming her user id wasn't required because she was already logged in. Eventually she got to a screen that said it was successfully submitted. She checked her email and the email for the fingerprint cards was already there. Later I checked my email and found an email with the submitted Form 4 attached.

I apologize for any confusion. This second time around, what you described is the process we used, only over the phone and jointly through different computers and same result for a successful submission.

It was originally filed back in December and the dealer used my provided login info to do the submission. If you read above there were others who likely did the same. I don't know if there was confusion on multiple dealers on the new processes or what. We all received basically, "you were naughty" emails from the ATF, had to redo our login pins and our Efiled Form4 submissions were rejected.

I hope that helps.

[Bret]

It definitely helps. Now I know that I'm on the right track. It will be interesting to see if these new e-filed Form 4's go as fast as the Form 1's or if they just take as long as the paper Form 4's. Obviously I'm hoping for the former.

[georgeib]

It definitely helps. Now I know that I'm on the right track. It will be interesting to see if these new e-filed Form 4's go as fast as the Form 1's or if they just take as long as the paper Form 4's. Obviously I'm hoping for the former.

They're supposed to be 90 days from acceptance, but my LGS is saying 120 days. I'm just hoping it'll be less than 180...

Kinda wanting a 22 can...

[joedirt199]

I am sure the speed of the processing will be the lack of data entering from the digital format over the paper forms.