Question re: accuracy with my BCM and LPVO

[TomMcC]

Not bagged, handguard resting on a backpack, buttstock pulled into my shoulder. Trigger is standard BCM PNT.

I understand it's not a good precision shooting technique. However, the fact that I shot exactly as well with a 2MOA Aimpoint versus a Trijicon scope at 6x surprised me.

My guess is you're just getting the same movement between the two optics at the shoulder. It doesn't take much.

6X should really have showed the movement, though.

[turnburglar]

I just want to say that diagnosing accuracy is actually a lot harder than it seems at face value.

My own BCM with ELW 16 barrel NON CHF will make my 62gr reloads touch each other like a clover leaf at 50 yards with a red dot.

[TomMcC]

What's the PNT trigger...5-6lbs. No doubt a good combat trigger, but there's a reason benchrest and and other precision rifle shooters have pretty light and precise breaking triggers.

[grizzlyblake]

I don't have great eyesight and am not a great shooter, so like I said I was just surprised that I didn't shoot any better with the LPVO than the Aimpoint.

That said, what should I expect to see out of this setup shooting without a sled and all?

I'm not chasing accuracy and am mainly looking to use this rifle to hog hunt (sub 200yd).

[AndyLate]

I don't have great eyesight and am not a great shooter, so like I said I was just surprised that I didn't shoot any better with the LPVO than the Aimpoint.

That said, what should I expect to see out of this setup shooting without a sled and all?

I'm not chasing accuracy and am mainly looking to use this rifle to hog hunt (sub 200yd).

Thats a very hard question to answer, because you are introducing variables. I would be disappointed if I was shooting 3 MOA groups using sandbags on a solid bench, 10X optic, and a light trigger. On the other hand, you know how precise you are under conditions that are more realistic during hunting.

Shooting the same with red dot and a scope just means that the optic was not the limiting factor.

Andy

[TomMcC]

You can extrapolate the groups sizes by doubling the distance. It's not exact because of other factors like wind at distance, etc. So, your groups will be something like 3" for the 62 gr. 6" for the M193 at 100yds., at 200 yds it will be 6", and 12". I think you'll be able to do way better than that once you get used to the scope.

For me, not great eyes either and a 4X scope, I can shoot my reloads about 2" at 100 yds, and usually get about 5" at 200 yds. off the bench.

[AndyLate]

FWIW, I am certain your BCM and 6X scope are capable of 1-1.5 MOA, especially at 50 yards. Its just tougher to do without a solid rest and light trigger.

Andy

[gunnerblue]

I don't have great eyesight and am not a great shooter, so like I said I was just surprised that I didn't shoot any better with the LPVO than the Aimpoint.

That said, what should I expect to see out of this setup shooting without a sled and all?

I'm not chasing accuracy and am mainly looking to use this rifle to hog hunt (sub 200yd).

Magnification won't make up for poor technique. Like I said, I think 1.5 MOA at 100 yards is what I'd expect and I would be comfortable hunting hogs and deer out to 200 yards with the setuo.

[NWcityguy2]

Magnification won't make up for poor technique. Like I said, I think 1.5 MOA at 100 yards is what I'd expect and I would be comfortable hunting hogs and deer out to 200 yards with the setuo.

Where are you getting this idea that he's shooting 1.5 MOA?

[markm]

Where are you getting this idea that he's shooting 1.5 MOA?

I think he is saying what HE would expect as acceptable.