Federal 30 Super Carry

[VIP3R 237]

Yeah but a .22LR can hold even more than that. See where that argument can go?

Might as well carry a Keltec PMR-30 .22 wmr at that point, or FN Five-Seven.

[ABNAK]

Might as well carry a Keltec PMR-30 .22 wmr at that point, or FN Five-Seven.

Yes. Granted, the PMR-30 ain't exactly "compact" but it is pretty damn flat.

[ABNAK]

Guys….enough with the presumptions and hope this is going to be able to work in an LCP sized and weight pistol.

Physics says NO

That is about the ONLY thing about this round that would interest me, if it can be done.

[johnnyrem]

Sorry. Can’t happen.

[sandsunsurf]

Again a new caliber that is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

Exactly what I was going to post when I started reading this thread. It's stupid. Merely some marketing of a ammo for a problem that doesn't exist.

[mark5pt56]

Federal accomplished what they intended, we have eight pages of yip yapping amounting to nothing and retards coming in the gun shop asking why we don't have this yet in a "xyz space modulator"

Oh-and an article in the next issue of American Rifleman.

[1168]

Might as well carry a Keltec PMR-30 .22 wmr at that point, or FN Five-Seven.

This thing has a similar max pressure and case diameter to 5.7 FN, but same COL as 9x19…. I wonder how long before someone gives it the .22TCM9r neck-down treatment and crams it into a CMMG RDB or a G19. I’d consider a suitably interesting PDW if it could do reasonable projectiles and were easily reloadable.

[Cagemonkey]

Whats OLD is whats NEW. The only real difference it seems is modern bullet technology; https://www.thereloadersnetwork.com/...0-super-carry/ http://gundata.org/cartridge/129/.30...-%287.65mm%29/. Just more Marketing BS, in a time where we can't even get existing ammo at an affordable price.

[1168]

Whats OLD is whats NEW. The only real difference it seems is modern bullet technology; https://www.thereloadersnetwork.com/...0-super-carry/ http://gundata.org/cartridge/129/.30...-%287.65mm%29/. Just more Marketing BS, in a time where we can't even get existing ammo at an affordable price.

The Tok doesn’t fit in guns with 9mm or .40 grip dimensions. The 30 luger and the Tok fail to improve mag capacity over 9mm. Why does everyone insist on comparing .30SC to cartridges it in no way is comparable with?

The primary two things this case has to offer are fitting in modern guns, and fitting more ammo in them.

[Cagemonkey]

Valid argument on Capacity. My main argument was on the Ballistics and another logistic burden.